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OpenStudy (sleepyjess):

logarithms! anyone willing to help meh? :)

OpenStudy (sleepyjess):

Okie, da question is: Solve the following logarithmic equation. \(log_5(x+15) + log_5(x+35)=3\)

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

\[\log_b a+\log_b c = \log_b(ac)\]

Nnesha (nnesha):

\[\huge\rm \log_b (x) + \log_b y= \log_b (x\cdot y)\] addition to multiplication \[\log_b x - \log_b y = \log_ b \frac{x}{y}\] subtraction to division

OpenStudy (sleepyjess):

So \(log_5((x+15)(x+25))= 3\)?

OpenStudy (sweetburger):

so you can multiple the interior of the 2 logarithms and then you can convert to exponential form

OpenStudy (sleepyjess):

*x+35

OpenStudy (sweetburger):

yes correct

OpenStudy (sleepyjess):

Okay, so doing that I get \(log_5(x^2 + 50x + 525) = 3\), what do I do from there?

OpenStudy (shadowlegendx):

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OpenStudy (shadowlegendx.):

/color yellow

OpenStudy (sweetburger):

Convert to exponential form is a possibility.

OpenStudy (sleepyjess):

ah, forgot about that, x^2 + 50x + 525 = 3^5?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

how did you get x^2+50x+525 ??

OpenStudy (sleepyjess):

or would it be 5^3? can never remember which way...

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

is it +25 of +35?

OpenStudy (sweetburger):

+35

Nnesha (nnesha):

its actually opposite: opposite side of log becomes exponent of the base \[\log_b x =y \rightarrow b^y =x\]

OpenStudy (sleepyjess):

+35, I made a mistake the second time I typed it, but then corrected it

OpenStudy (sleepyjess):

ooohhhh the base of the log is the base of the exponent

OpenStudy (decentnabeel):

\[\log_5\left(x+15\right)+\log_5\left(x+35\right)=3\] \[\mathrm{Apply\:\log\:rule}:\quad \log _c\left(a\right)+\log _c\left(b\right)=\log _c\left(ab\right)\] \[\log _5\left(x+15\right)+\log _5\left(x+35\right)=\log _5\left(\left(x+15\right)\left(x+35\right)\right)\] \[\log _5\left(\left(x+15\right)\left(x+35\right)\right)=3\] \[\mathrm{Apply\:\log\:rule}:\quad \:a=\log _b\left(b^a\right)\] \[3=\log _5\left(5^3\right)=\log _5\left(125\right)\] \[\log _5\left(\left(x+15\right)\left(x+35\right)\right)=\log _5\left(125\right)\] \[\mathrm{When\:the\:logs\:have\:the\:same\:base:\:\:}\log _b\left(f\left(x\right)\right)=\log _b\left(g\left(x\right)\right)\quad \Rightarrow \quad f\left(x\right)=g\left(x\right)\] \[\mathrm{For\:}\log _5\left(\left(x+15\right)\left(x+35\right)\right)=\log _5\left(125\right)\mathrm{,\:\quad solve\:}\left(x+15\right)\left(x+35\right)=125\] \[\left(x+15\right)\left(x+35\right)=125\] \[\mathrm{Solve\:}\:\left(x+15\right)\left(x+35\right)=125:\quad x=-10,\:x=-40\] \[\mathrm{Verifying\:Solutions}:\quad x=-10\space\mathrm{True},\:\spacex=-40\space\mathrm{False}\]

OpenStudy (decentnabeel):

So final Answer is... \[x=-10\]

OpenStudy (sweetburger):

Yes because you cant take the logarithm of a negative number so -40 is false

OpenStudy (decentnabeel):

@sleepyjess are you gotit

OpenStudy (sleepyjess):

Where did \(log_5(125)\) come from?

OpenStudy (sweetburger):

hes rewriting the number 3 for some reason.

OpenStudy (sleepyjess):

Couldn't I just do x^2 + 50x + 525 = 125, then go x^2 + 50x + 400 = 0 and either factor or use quadratic formula from that?

OpenStudy (sweetburger):

you could do that and you would be perfectly fine doing that

OpenStudy (sweetburger):

more than one way to skin a cat

OpenStudy (sleepyjess):

Okay, I'd rather just stick to the methods I know how to do than try to learn a different way the night before the final

OpenStudy (sweetburger):

I agree. The second way presented is very convoluted in my opinion.

OpenStudy (sleepyjess):

Would you mind helping me with one more @sweetburger ?

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