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OpenStudy (samigupta8):

Need help with this!

OpenStudy (lolyeha):

What is the question?

OpenStudy (samigupta8):

Let f be a continuous real function such that f(11)=10 and for all x, f(x)f(f(x))=1 then evaluate f(9)

OpenStudy (kainui):

well here's a bit of playing around: \[f(f(x))=\frac{1}{f(x)}\] now we can write this in two ways: \[f(f(f(x))) = f(\tfrac{1}{f(x)}) = \frac{1}{f(f(x))}\] However, the second part there is f(x) so: \[f(x) = f(\tfrac{1}{f(x)})\]

OpenStudy (kainui):

Start here, and successively plug in x=f(x) \[f(x)f^2(x)=1\]\[f^2(x)f^3(x)=1\]\[f^3(x)f^4(x)=1\]\[f^4(x)f^5(x)=1\]\[\cdots\] Now if you flip the equations, multiply them together, we have: \[f(x)f^2(x) = f^2(x)f^3(x)\]\[f(x)=f^3(x)\] We can repeat this process another step to get: \[f(x)f^4(x)=1\] So we have sorta an infinite family of ridiculous and probably useless equations: \[f(x)f^{2n}(x)=1\]and\[f(x)=f^{2n+1}(x)\]

OpenStudy (kainui):

wait a sec...

OpenStudy (samigupta8):

From where did you get this? I didn't get this latter post of yours.

OpenStudy (kainui):

From my mind just now? I tried to put all my reasoning there.

OpenStudy (kainui):

Hahahahaha! Check this out.

OpenStudy (samigupta8):

Lol! Sorry but i won't be able to stay up at the moment.

OpenStudy (kainui):

\[f(x)f(f(x))=1\] let \(f(x)=9\) \[9*f(9)=1\] \[f(9)=\frac{1}{9}\]

OpenStudy (samigupta8):

Uhhh! That easy ...

Parth (parthkohli):

That'd also mean\[f(10) = 1/10\]Which is not true. Basically your function is not surjective.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

SOMEONE IS ALREADY ANSWERING THIS, PLEASE GO HELP OTHER STUDENTS.

OpenStudy (kainui):

Uhh I was wrong @BrownieCat, chill

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay, that just means one person can stay and watch for errors/correct the ones you've made. Everyone else can go home.

OpenStudy (samigupta8):

Did you mean to say that f(11)=1/11 if we go by his method which is not true since it's value is different?

Parth (parthkohli):

Yes.

OpenStudy (kainui):

OK I think I have it: "Let f be a continuous real function such that f(11)=10 and for all x, f(x)f(f(x))=1 then evaluate f(9)" since for all x, f(x)f(f(x))=1 then certainly for x=11 we have: f(11)f(f(11))=1 We can exactly evaluate f(11)=10 so we do to get: \[f(10)=\frac{1}{10}\] Since we know \[f(11)=10\] and this is a continuous, real function on R, we know by continuity that for the range 10 to 11, \[10 < x < 11\] that \[\frac{1}{10} < f(x) < 11\] so this implies that there exists an f(x)=9 by continuity. I think they call this like mean value theorem or something maybe idk, whatever. Because of that we are allowed to now plug in f(x)=9 \[f(9)=\frac{1}{9}\]

OpenStudy (samigupta8):

Thanks kainui.

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