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OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

Help write the standard equation of the circle with the given center that passes through the given point

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

which problem number?

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

19 I mostly need to know how to do it for 19-24 so if you can help me with 19 then hopefully I can figure the rest out

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Ok let's start with the graph of the two points on the same xy coordinate plane See the attached image

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

C is the center point P is the point that lies on the edge of the circle

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

how far are the two points from each other?

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

4 points?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

4 units apart. Yes. You can count out the spaces between them This trick only works if they are on the same vertical line or the same horizontal line did you want me to go over how to use the distance formula?

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

so I just use the distance formula

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

do you know how to use it?

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

d=x2-x1^2+y2-y1^2

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

If you meant to say this \[\Large d = \sqrt{\left(x_2-x_1\right)^2+\left(y_2-y_1\right)^2}\] then you'd be correct

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

-2--2^2+6-10^2=-100 is what I got so that makes no sense

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

-2--2+10-6^2=16

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Let C = (x1,y1) = (-2,6) P = (x2,y2) = (-2,10) Distance from P to C is... \[\Large d = \sqrt{\left(x_2-x_1\right)^2+\left(y_2-y_1\right)^2}\] \[\Large d = \sqrt{\left(-2-(-2)\right)^2+\left(10-6\right)^2}\] \[\Large d = \sqrt{\left(-2+2\right)^2+\left(10-6\right)^2}\] \[\Large d = \sqrt{\left(0\right)^2+\left(4\right)^2}\] \[\Large d = \sqrt{0+16}\] \[\Large d = \sqrt{16}\] \[\Large d = 4\]

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

I forgot to square root it sorry

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

for 20. I got 1 21. I got 7.21

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

going back to #19 d = 4 so the radius of the circle is r = 4 do you know how to get the circle equation if you know the center and radius?

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

can you give me a formula

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Circle equation \[\Large (x-h)^2 + (y-k)^2 = r^2\] where (h,k) is the center r is the radius

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

does that help? if so, then tell me what the equation is. If not, then let me know

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

can you explain

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

in the case of problem #19 center = (h,k) = (-2,6) so h = -2 and k = 6 r = 4 was found when we found the distance from the center to the edge so let's plug all this in \[\Large (x-h)^2 + (y-k)^2 = r^2\] \[\Large (x-(-2))^2 + (y-6)^2 = 4^2\] \[\Large (x+2)^2 + (y-6)^2 = 16\] which is the equation of the circle with center (-2,6) and radius r = 4

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

so what coordinates do i use for x and y

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

x and y are left alone. This is so you can graph it as an equation example: y = 3x+5

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

pretty sure this is x+y=32

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

*not right

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

which problems did you do before #19?

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

20 and 21 but all i did was distance formula

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

and I didn't do any before 19 that is where im suppose to start

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so if you were to do say #8, then center = (2,-8) (h,k) = (2,-8) h = 2 and k = -8 radius: r = 9 Plug these values in \[\Large (x-h)^2 + (y-k)^2 = r^2\] \[\Large (x-2)^2 + (y-(-8))^2 = 9^2\] \[\Large (x-2)^2 + (y+8)^2 = 81\] So the final answer to #8 is \[\Large (x-2)^2 + (y+8)^2 = 81\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

the last equation I wrote is the circle equation that models the curve that graphs a circle on the xy plane. In that case, the circle is centered at (2,-8) and has radius 9

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

so the final answer for 19 is x+2^2+y-6^2

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

#19 is similar to #8 but instead of giving you the radius, you have to find the radius

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

write it out how I wrote it. Don't forget the parenthesis

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

\[(X+2)^2+(y-6)^2\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes and that is equal to 16 btw you can write it out like this `(x+2)^2 + (y-6)^2 = 16` notice how (x+2)^2 is completely different from x+2^2

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

oh yea

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

so that is it?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

for 19, yes

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

awesome

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you'll do the same for 20 through 24

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

can I send you the answers to make sure they are right

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

sure

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

20. d=1 so (x-7)^2+(y- -2)^2=1

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

not sure how you got the distance to be 1. That's not correct

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

also the x-7 should be x-1 the x-(-2) should actually be x-2

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

it didn't sound correct sq rt of (0-1)^2+(6-2)^2=17 so 4.12?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

\[\Large d = \sqrt{17} \approx 4.12\] is the correct distance so the radius is \[\Large r = \sqrt{17}\] meaning that \[\Large r^2 = 17\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

So the correct answer for #20 is \[\Large (x-1)^2+(y-2)^2 = 17\]

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

wouldn't R^2= sq rt of 17 so not 17 but 4.12....

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

r itself is \[\Large r = \sqrt{17}\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

since distance from center to edge of circle is the radius

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

square both sides \[\Large r = \sqrt{17}\] \[\Large r^2 = (\sqrt{17})^2\] \[\Large r^2 = 17\]

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

oh ok I got ya

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

so 20. (x-1)^2+(y-2)^2=17

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yep

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

for 21. (x-7)^2+(y- -2)^2=52

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

22. (x-10)^2+y- -5)^2=125

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

for #21, make sure you write it as (y - (-2))^2 which simplifies into (y+2)^2

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so the final answer for #21 is (x-7)^2+(y+2)^2 = 52

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

23. (x-6)^2+(y-5)^2=61

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

#22 is incorrect

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

#23 is correct

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

22 is incorrect but the others are right?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

21 was incorrect, but I posted the answer of what it should be (scroll up)

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

oh so 22. (x+10)^2+(y+5)^2

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

and that's equal to what?

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

=125?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yep so the final answer for #22 is (x+10)^2+(y+5)^2 = 125

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

24.(x+1)^2+(y+4)^2=25

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

#24 is correct

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

nice work

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

thank you so very much you were great help

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

I'm glad I could help and that it makes more sense now

OpenStudy (samanddean1967):

Yea I'm reviewing problems for finals

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