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OpenStudy (arianna1453):

Calculus Help

OpenStudy (arianna1453):

OpenStudy (mathmale):

sounds as tho' you need to calculate the net rate of flow. Which of the given rates should be subtracted from the other rate to obtain the net rate of flow?: Once you have that net rate, mult. it by the elapsed time, 12 minutes. What units of measurement should your final result have?

OpenStudy (arianna1453):

E(t) - F(t) ? @mathmale

OpenStudy (arianna1453):

I just dont know how to integrate E(t)

OpenStudy (ask_if_im_a_ghost):

It says all you have to do is set it up, so I'm guessing all you have to write down is dG/dt = E(t)-F(t), then integrate it from t=0 to t=12 using a calculator

OpenStudy (arianna1453):

E(t) wont integrate for me.

OpenStudy (ask_if_im_a_ghost):

It won'the integrate because it can't be integrated. You have to evaluate it as a definite integral, with mumbers, as in put it in the calculator with the bounds. Your calculator will then give you a number.

OpenStudy (arianna1453):

Ive tried that.

OpenStudy (arianna1453):

Is Ln the same as Log?

OpenStudy (arianna1453):

Yes. It is. nevermind.

OpenStudy (ask_if_im_a_ghost):

Not really, but in wolfram alpha, Log is equivalent to Ln

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Hold, hold. ln x and log x are not the same; the base of the first is e, whereas the base of the second is 10. They are definitely related to one another through the equation\[\log x = \ln x / \ln 10\]

OpenStudy (ask_if_im_a_ghost):

Yes, but in wolfram language, when you input Log, it assumes base e, not 10. I know, it's weird.

OpenStudy (arianna1453):

Right, so how would I integrate E(t) equation? U substitution?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Experiment. Suppose you know that log 2 = 0.30103. Type log 2 into wolframalpha and determine whether or not it returns the value you expect. Then try ln 2. The results are not the same, are they?

OpenStudy (arianna1453):

Right.

OpenStudy (ask_if_im_a_ghost):

So my original integral was right.

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Rather than affirm that, I'll say that wolframalpha is apparently "smart enough" to know the difference between ln x and log x.

OpenStudy (arianna1453):

Okay, im still confused.

OpenStudy (ask_if_im_a_ghost):

Here http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Integrate%5BLn%5Bt%2B7%5D%2F%28t%2B2%29%2C+%7Bt%2C+0%2C+12%7D%5D&x=0&y=0 I used Ln instead of Log It still gives you the same result of 4.61149

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Sorry, arianna, for having been sidetracked by those issues regarding logs. You could jump right into the integration, without first having subtracted E(t) from F(t), if you don't mind having to integrate both (but separately) and combining the results.

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Would you please share your work, leading up to the integration?

OpenStudy (arianna1453):

I got f(t)'s answer to be 65.13.

OpenStudy (arianna1453):

but I cant get E(t)

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Not so interested in answers, arianna, as I am in HOW you got them. Looking at E(t), I suspect you'll have to do numerical integration on your calculator. Is that what you used to find the integral from 0 to 10 of F(t)?

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