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OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

Differential Eq.

OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

\[ih \frac{ d }{ dt }\psi+\frac{ h^2 }{ 2m }\frac{ d^2 }{ dx^2 }\psi\]

OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

\[\psi(x=0,t)=0, \psi(x=L,t)=0\]

OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

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OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

@Loser66

OpenStudy (loser66):

ohoh... I don't know.

OpenStudy (loser66):

PDE?

OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

yup

OpenStudy (loser66):

=0, right? If I replace \(\psi\) by \(u\), I can rewrite it as \(ih*U_t +\dfrac{h^2}{2m}U_{xx}=0\)

OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

Solution\[\psi(x,t)= \frac{ 4 }{ \pi \sqrt{L} } \frac{ 1 }{ n } \sin(kx) e^{-i \frac{ E }{ h }t}\]

OpenStudy (loser66):

ok, What do you want me to do? find solution or verify the solution?

OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

I got the solution, but I can't figure out what the question wants! It says take the time derivative of P and use SE to get dpsi/dt

OpenStudy (loser66):

The solution is given, right?

OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

yup

OpenStudy (loser66):

If we have to verify, then, it is harder than find it out. ok, I need time to work on it. But not promise that I will have it done. hehehe..

OpenStudy (bobo-i-bo):

Lol, this is probably beyond me, but I'll try and help as far as I can...

OpenStudy (bobo-i-bo):

Firstly, you have calculated P right?

OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

\[P= \frac{ 16 }{ \pi^2 L} \frac{ 1 }{ n^2} \sin(kx) \sin(kx)\]

OpenStudy (bobo-i-bo):

O.o oh, so any variables with respect to time disappears? O.o

OpenStudy (bobo-i-bo):

okay, then take the partial derivative of P wrt t

OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

wouldn't it be same as ^

OpenStudy (bobo-i-bo):

Hmmm, I believe you differentiate with P wrt t when P is equal to your thing above. But then you also differentiate \(\psi^*\psi\)

OpenStudy (thomas5267):

I am pretty sure this is the Schrödinger equation for a particle in infinite potential well. No idea what the question is asking though.

OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

@Kainui

OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

solution I got \[\psi(x,t)= \sum_{}^{n}C_n \sin(k_nx)e^{\frac{ -iEt}{ h}}\]

OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

\[k_n= \frac{ n*\pi }{ L}\]

OpenStudy (kainui):

They want you to "plug in the Schrodinger equation" when you integrate the probability. What they mean is, the SE looks like this: \[\dot \psi = -i \hbar \hat H \psi\] so that is also, literally the time derivative of \(\psi\). Follow the problem step by step, don't try to "make stuff up". Start here: "To demonstrate this consider the local probability density \(P(x,t)=\psi^* \psi\)." Then in the very next sentence they tell you exactly what you need to do. "Take the time derivative of P and use the Schrodinger Equation to evaluate \(\dot \psi\)." Do this. They proceed to give you more details after that of how you do this, which is pretty much what I said earlier. Follow this, show me your steps, and if you get stuck/confused we'll deal with it when it pops up.

OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

\[dp/dt= \psi*' \psi'\]

OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

\[\psi*'=ih H \psi\]

OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

\[\int\limits_{0}^{L}p'=-ihH \psi(ih H \psi) dt\]

OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

\[\int\limits_{0}^{L}p'=\int\limits_{0}^{L}\frac{ h^2 }{ 4m^2}\frac{ d^2 \psi }{ dx^2 }\frac{ d^2 \psi }{ dx^2 }dt\]

OpenStudy (kainui):

Wait a sec, this isn't the product rule!!! \[P' \ne {\psi^*}' \psi'\] Here we go: \[P' = {\psi^*}' \psi+ {\psi^*} \psi'\]

OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

Okay

OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

\[\psi'=\frac{ ih }{ 2m}\frac{ d^2\psi }{ dx^2 }\]

OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

then what is psi?

OpenStudy (kainui):

the complex conjugate also stays on the derivative of psi in the second equation you gave too. psi is the wave function

OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

\[\psi'^*=\frac{ ih }{ 2m}\frac{ d^2\psi^* }{ dx^2 }\]

OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

is psi solution that wrote ^

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