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OpenStudy (deercult):

Given that the hypotenuse of this right triangle is 25 cm long and that tan(Θ) = 3 Find the values of x and y, accurate to the nearest tenth.

OpenStudy (deercult):

OpenStudy (mrnood):

if tan theta = 3 then you can immediately find theta so then sin theta = x/35 you can work out cos theta for yourself

OpenStudy (mrnood):

hint - the diagram is misleacing - x is much bigger than y

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Since tan theta = opp/adj, \[\Large \tan \theta = \frac{ y }{ x } = 3\]which means y = 3x.

OpenStudy (mrnood):

hint - the diagram is misleading - x is much bigger than y

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

From there you can just use pythagorean theorem a^2+b^2=c^2, \[\Large x^2 + y^2 = 25\] and replace y with 3x.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

@MrNood there's no need to solve for theta, that adds inaccuracy.

OpenStudy (mrnood):

92 MrNood Mathlete Medals 0 if tan theta = 3 then you can immediately find theta so then sin theta = y/35 hence ypou can get y you can work out cos theta for yourself then you can get x

OpenStudy (mrnood):

either way is perfectly fine mine is easier

OpenStudy (deercult):

Oh, hang on. It takes me a few moments to register things sometimes, I'm not ignoring you guys.

OpenStudy (mrnood):

you can get theta to umpteen decimal places - and as long as you don't round before using sin and cos then you have sufficient accuracy

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

\[\Large x^2 + y^2 = 25^2 \]sorry, 25^2 not 25. replacing y with 3x: \[\Large x^2 + (3x)^2 = 25^2\]then just solve for x, and use y=3x to find y.

OpenStudy (deercult):

Oh, alright. Thanks to both of you, though! It's always good to have multiple ways to work something out, imo. Give me one sec.

OpenStudy (mrnood):

and how 'exact' is sqrt (62.5)?

OpenStudy (mrnood):

about as exact as tan^-1 (3)

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Why would you write it as sqrt 62.5? Why not \[\Large 5\sqrt{\frac{ 5 }{ 2 }}\] Which is pretty exact. If it had asked for an exact answer, it's a lot messier to write in terms of tan^-1 (3)

OpenStudy (mrnood):

It is no more exact it has an irreducible root - mine has a trig function

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Or \[\frac{ 5\sqrt {10}}{ 2 }\]

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

How is it not more exact?

OpenStudy (mrnood):

@deercult as I said above - both methods are equally valid and equally good

OpenStudy (mrnood):

tan^-1 (3) is irrational sqrt(10) is irrational both cannot be expressed 'exactly'

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

This is exact, but a lot uglier than square roots\[\large y = 25\sin( \arctan (3))\] Yes, they can be expressed exactly. Square root of 10 is expressed exactly.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Irrational numbers aren't incapable of being expressed exactly...

OpenStudy (mrnood):

your argument is not consistent if sqrt(10) is 'exact' then so is tan^-1 (3) they both precisely define a number that cannot otherwise be written

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

My argument was not at all inconsistent.

OpenStudy (loser66):

you have tan t =3, that is y /x =3 or y = 3x and y^2+x^2 =25^2 solve for y,x It is not hard, right?

OpenStudy (mrnood):

@deercult our semantics are no use to you - do oyu understand how to solve this?

OpenStudy (mrnood):

tan^-1 (3) is irrational sqrt(10) is irrational to quote @agent0smith "Irrational numbers aren't incapable of being expressed exactly..."

OpenStudy (deercult):

Not really, sorry. I'm still having trouble following everything, rip... It's ok, though. I appreciate y'all trying. I'm having a friend just walk me through it when he can get on.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Yeah, but I was never the one who said to use umpteen decimal places. I actually said a few posts back "This is exact, but a lot uglier than square roots y=25sin(arctan(3))"

OpenStudy (mrnood):

@deercult Please ignore the stuff above - in particular since your question asks you to express to nearest tenth

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

In a trig class, square roots are acceptable as exact answers. Inverse trig functions rarely are, since you can find ways to write them in terms of square roots usually.

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