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OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
I need help with HW please!
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OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
@Vocaloid
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
are you familiar with the boiling point and freezing point elevation/depression formulas?
OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
yes
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
good, let's start on the first problem then
OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
okay
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OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
i think we willing be using the boiling point formula first
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
yes
OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
then the freezing point
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
delta T = Kb * molality * i
OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
the problem is the 104.75 do i subtract it from 100?
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Vocaloid (vocaloid):
yes
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
that gives you your boiling point elevation (deltaT)
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
use that to solve for molality
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
then plug that into the freezing point formula
OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
3.10=m
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Vocaloid (vocaloid):
not quite
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
remember that i = 3 in this case
OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
i did 0.51 x 3
OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
then 1.53 divided by 4.75
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
where are you getting .51 from
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OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
kb= 0.51
OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
kf= -1.86
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
oh right
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
correct
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
yes, that makes your molality 3.10
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Vocaloid (vocaloid):
then plug that into the freezing formula
OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
-17 is the freezing point?
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
good
OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
i did -1.86 x 3.10 x 3
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
yes good
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OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
thx but can u help me with the others too?
OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
do u want me to make new post?
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
sure
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
nah it's ok
OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
thank you
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OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
i have no idea how to do the next one
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
for the next one you want to set up two equations, one for the pee and one for the pee + salt
OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
so how would i set it up?
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
hm let me see
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
this one's a bit tricky
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Vocaloid (vocaloid):
@sweetburger would you mind checking me on this one? I have an idea but i'm not 100% sure. it's the second problem on the page
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
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OpenStudy (sweetburger):
Which question number 10?
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
yes
OpenStudy (sweetburger):
\[\Delta T = -5.27C^o - (-3.16C^o)=-2.11 \] to represent the change in temperature. Otherwise looks good.
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Vocaloid (vocaloid):
i'm not certain if i should use 2 for van't Hoff since this isn't pure water
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
( i mean, not a solution made from pure water + solute)
OpenStudy (sweetburger):
Van hoffs is still 2. Assume the question is relatively simple.
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
gotcha
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
in that case, we just set it up like this
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Vocaloid (vocaloid):
|dw:1464485497893:dw|
OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
oh so we have to convert it?
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
yes
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
just convert 15 grams of NaCl to moles
OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
so first we solve for the m then convert
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Vocaloid (vocaloid):
convert NaCl first
OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
m= 2.1
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
hold on a sec
OpenStudy (sweetburger):
@MarcoReus11 how did you get m= 2.1?
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
first we convert 15 g NaCl to moles, giving us .256 moles
.256/.175kg = 1.46 molality
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OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
0.51 x 2=1.02/2.11
OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
2.11/1.02
OpenStudy (sweetburger):
Where does .51 come from?
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
we can't use 0.51 since this isn't water
OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
thats what kb=
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OpenStudy (sweetburger):
Follow what @Vocaloid did above.
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
we're solving for the Kb of pee
OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
oh i see
OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
0.72=kb
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
good
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OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
so its 0.72?
OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
i would label it 0.72 KF right?
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
yes, Kf
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
(not Kb, that was a typo )
OpenStudy (sweetburger):
yea Kb is the base dissociation constant to measure the relative strength of a base.
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OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
okay just making sure thx
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
ready for 11?
OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
yup
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
i think i should be ok on my own now
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
for 11, we solve for molarity
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OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
okay
OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
it gives up 2 product with grams
OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
so are we suppose to set up 2 different equation?
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
just one equation this time
OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
okay
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Vocaloid (vocaloid):
were you given a freezing point depression constant for ether?
OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
yes -116.87
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
what about the constant?
Vocaloid (vocaloid):
Kf?
OpenStudy (marcoreus11):
-1.86