Help with finding the roots. (Image Included)
@alivejeremy do you mind helping me ?
SOrry i'm busy at the moment
kk
here we have to write the equation of such parabola, first
the equation which models the parabola, is: \(y=ax^2+bx+c\)
and, using the points you provided, we have to determine the values of the coefficients \(a,b,c\)
kk
for example I consider the point \((0,4)\) after the substitution into the equation above, we get: \[\begin{gathered} 4 = a \cdot {0^2} + b \cdot 0 + c \hfill \\ \hfill \\ c = 4 \hfill \\ \end{gathered} \]
kk and the next time is to ?
next I consider the point \((2,0)\), and, again, after a substitution, I get: \[\begin{gathered} 0 = a \cdot {2^2} + b \cdot 2 + c \hfill \\ \hfill \\ 0 = 4a + 2b + c \hfill \\ \end{gathered} \]
finally, I consider the point \((4,0)\), and in a similar way, I can write: \[\begin{gathered} 0 = a \cdot {4^2} + b \cdot 4 + c \hfill \\ \hfill \\ 0 = 16a + 4b + c \hfill \\ \end{gathered} \]
so, we got these three conditions: \[\left\{ \begin{gathered} c = 4 \hfill \\ 0 = 4a + 2b + c \hfill \\ 0 = 16a + 4b + c \hfill \\ \end{gathered} \right.\] which is a linear system for \(a,b,c\), please solve for \(a,b,c\)
please wait a moment, I think that the point \((4,0)\) is not correct! Since the parabola does \(not\) pass at such point
alrighty
oh yeah i made an error
it should be -4,0
ok! In this case the last equation has to be replaced with this one: \[0 = 16a - 4b + c\] so, the final linear system that we have to solve is: \[\left\{ \begin{gathered} c = 4 \hfill \\ 0 = 4a + 2b + c \hfill \\ 0 = 16a - 4b + c \hfill \\ \end{gathered} \right.\]
please try to solve such system
a=0 b=0
hint: I substitute \(c=4\) into the second and third equation, so I get: \[\left\{ \begin{gathered} c = 4 \hfill \\ 0 = 4a + 2b + 4 \hfill \\ 0 = 16a - 4b + 4 \hfill \\ \end{gathered} \right.\]
ughhh i forgot about substituting it
next I divide the second equation by 2, and the third equation by 4, so I write this: \[\left\{ \begin{gathered} c = 4 \hfill \\ 0 = 2a + b + 2 \hfill \\ 0 = 4a - b + 1 \hfill \\ \end{gathered} \right.\]
I solve the second equation for \(b\), and I get: \[\left\{ \begin{gathered} c = 4 \hfill \\ b = - 2a - 2 \hfill \\ 0 = 4a - b + 1 \hfill \\ \end{gathered} \right.\]
now, I substitute the value of \(b\) into the third equation: \[\left\{ \begin{gathered} c = 4 \hfill \\ b = - 2a - 2 \hfill \\ 0 = 4a - \left( { - 2a - 2} \right) + 1 \hfill \\ \end{gathered} \right.\] please solve the third equation for \(a\)
a=\[\frac{ -1 }{ 2}\]
correct! now, the value of \(b\) is: \[b = - 2 \cdot \left( {\frac{{ - 1}}{2}} \right) - 2 = ...?\]
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hint: we have \(-2 \cdot (- 1/2)=1\), so: \[b = - 2 \cdot \left( {\frac{{ - 1}}{2}} \right) - 2 = 1 - 2 = ...?\]
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I'm confused
correct! so the cartesian equation of the parabola is: \[y = \frac{{ - {x^2}}}{2} - x + 4\]
next, the symmetry axis has the subsequent equation: \[\Large x = - \frac{b}{{2a}} = - \frac{{ - 1}}{{2 \cdot \left( {\frac{{ - 1}}{2}} \right)}} = ...?\]
please complete
hint: \[\Large \begin{gathered} x = - \frac{b}{{2a}} = - \frac{{ - 1}}{{2 \cdot \left( {\frac{{ - 1}}{2}} \right)}} = \hfill \\ \hfill \\ = \frac{1}{{2 \cdot \left( {\frac{{ - 1}}{2}} \right)}} = \frac{1}{{ - 1}} = ...? \hfill \\ \end{gathered} \]
I think it is \(x=-1\) am I right?
yeah that's what I got as well.........
ok! So the x-coordinate of the vertex is \(x=-1\) and \(not\) x=0 furthermore, by substitution, the y-coordinate of the vertex, is: \[{y_V} = \frac{{ - {{\left( { - 1} \right)}^2}}}{2} - \left( { - 1} \right) + 4 = ...?\]
lol yea typoss
oops.. I meant and not x=1*
please evaluate \(y_V\) \[{y_V} = \frac{{ - {{\left( { - 1} \right)}^2}}}{2} - \left( { - 1} \right) + 4 = ...?\]
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hint: \[\begin{gathered} {y_V} = \frac{{ - {{\left( { - 1} \right)}^2}}}{2} - \left( { - 1} \right) + 4 = \frac{{ - 1}}{2} + 1 + 4 = \hfill \\ \hfill \\ = \frac{{ - 1}}{2} + 5 = ...? \hfill \\ \end{gathered} \]
4.5 or 9/2
correct! So the vertex, is: \(V=(-1,\;9/2)\)
finally the roots can be computed solving this quadratic equation: \[\frac{{ - {x^2}}}{2} - x + 4 = 0\] please try to solve such equation
so i used the calculator and i got -1/2 + 1/2\[\sqrt{17}\]
hint: if I multiply such equation by \(-2\), I get this: \[{x^2} + 2x - 8 = 0\]
now, from the general theory on quadratic equations, we can write this: \[x = \frac{{ - 2 \pm \sqrt {4 + 32} }}{2} = \frac{{ - 2 \pm \sqrt {36} }}{2} = ...?\] please continue
ugh this is really confusing and I'm not understanding it... I give up but thanks for your help @Michele_Laino :)
if we start from this equation: \[{x^2} + 2x - 8 = 0\] I have to apply this formula: \[x = \frac{{ - b \pm \sqrt {{b^2} - 4ac} }}{{2a}}\] wherein \(a=1,b=2,c=-8\), so, after a substitution, I get: \[x = \frac{{ - 2 \pm \sqrt {4 + 32} }}{2} = \frac{{ - 2 \pm \sqrt {36} }}{2} = ...?\]
here is the next step: \[\begin{gathered} x = \frac{{ - b \pm \sqrt {{b^2} - 4ac} }}{{2a}} \hfill \\ x = \frac{{ - 2 \pm \sqrt {4 + 32} }}{2} = \frac{{ - 2 \pm \sqrt {36} }}{2} = \frac{{ - 2 \pm 6}}{2} \hfill \\ \end{gathered} \] so: \[\begin{gathered} {x_1} = \frac{{ - 2 + 6}}{2} = ...? \hfill \\ \hfill \\ {x_2} = \frac{{ - 2 - 6}}{2} = ...? \hfill \\ \end{gathered} \]
that's equal to -4
yes, the first root is \(x_1=2\), whereas the second root is \(x_2=-4\)
ahh ok ok I see omg !!!!!! thank you so MUCH !!!!! @Michele_Laino you're a genius !!!!
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lol you're welcome
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