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OpenStudy (abbles):

Give the domain and range of each of the following functions.

OpenStudy (abbles):

y = (x-2)/(3x-9)

OpenStudy (abbles):

For the domain, I got all real numbers except x cannot equal 3. For the range, how am I supposed to find that?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

You can use a graph to visually see what the range is Or you can swap x and y, then solve for y Let's use the second method y = (x-2)/(3x-9) x = (y-2)/(3y-9) ... swap x and y; now isolate y x(3y-9) = y-2 3x*y - 9x = y - 2 3x*y = y - 2 + 9x 3x*y - y = 9x - 2 y*(3x - 1) = 9x - 2 y = (9x - 2)/(3x - 1) What I've done is shown that the inverse of \[\Large f(x) = \frac{x-2}{3x-9}\] is \[\Large f^{-1}(x) = \frac{9x - 2}{3x - 1}\] Finding the domain of the inverse will give you the range of the original function

OpenStudy (abbles):

So y is all real numbers except 1/3?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yep, it's impossible to plug in some value of x to get y = 1/3 so y = 1/3 is the horizontal asymptote

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

notice in y = (x-2)/(3x-9) the leading terms are x up top and 3x down below x/(3x) = 1/3 where x is nonzero so as x heads off to infinity, y is getting closer and closer to 1/3

OpenStudy (abbles):

Another example: y = 8/(x+1) + 5 I've already found that x cannot equal -1. For the y, I switched the x and y values (is there a reason for this? why can't I just solve for x?) and got

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

sure you can solve for x. What do you get when you do?

OpenStudy (abbles):

Is that true for all/most problems like this? the leading coefficients are the vertical asymptotes?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

the swapping of x and y happens because I'm finding the inverse

OpenStudy (abbles):

I got it to this: yx + y - 5x - 12 and I'm kind of stuck

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

`Is that true for all/most problems like this? the leading coefficients are the vertical asymptotes?` only if the degrees are the same and only if you have a rational function. See rule 2 http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9uxn3U5jEz8/VC-TK4qZudI/AAAAAAAAAGc/zt-dgnMHBfw/s1600/Screen+Shot+2014-10-03+at+11.26.10+PM.png

OpenStudy (abbles):

In the case of the first example, the horizontal asymptote just happened to be the same as the range?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

The horizontal asymptote is a visual indicator of what is left out of the range

OpenStudy (abbles):

Oh okay.

OpenStudy (abbles):

Back to the second example, what should I do from here? yx + y - 5x - 12

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Let's solve for x y = 8/(x+1) + 5 y-5 = 8/(x+1) (y-5)*(x+1) = 8 x*y + y - 5x - 5 = 8 x*y - 5x = 8 - y + 5 x*y - 5x = 13 - y x*(y - 5) = 13 - y x = (13 - y)/(y - 5)

OpenStudy (abbles):

The range is all real numbers except y = 5?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes

OpenStudy (abbles):

And that would also be a vertical asymptote?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

horizontal

OpenStudy (abbles):

Right

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

this is not a coincidence to the fact that there's a +5 at the end of y = 8/(x+1) + 5 as x gets bigger and bigger, y will slowly get closer to 5 but never get there

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

8/(x+1) will get smaller and smaller as x gets bigger 8/(x+1) will get closer and closer to 0

OpenStudy (abbles):

:) thanks so much. The world needs more math helpers like you!

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

glad to be of help

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