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OpenStudy (dawnr):

Calculating double integral

OpenStudy (dawnr):

\[\int\limits_{}^{}\int\limits_{}^{}xydxdy\]

OpenStudy (dawnr):

d; y>= 0, x^2 + y^2 <=1, x^2+y^2-2x<=0

OpenStudy (dawnr):

is this the area?

OpenStudy (dawnr):

also rho should go from 0 to 1 but where should theta go from? pi/2 to pi?

OpenStudy (phi):

it looks like we have to divide that into two separate regions

OpenStudy (dawnr):

which two?

OpenStudy (phi):

from theta =0 up to some angle (tbd), rho goes out to 1 but then it uses the other circle as its limit

OpenStudy (phi):

compare to

OpenStudy (daniel.ohearn1):

The area of of integration is best represented over 3 axis.

OpenStudy (dawnr):

these are circles why would we need 3 axis?

OpenStudy (dawnr):

and how do i know where to put the lines?

OpenStudy (phi):

what's the question ?

OpenStudy (dawnr):

where do i draw the lines on the picture, how do i know where to draw them?

OpenStudy (phi):

you can imagine rho going from 0 to 1 at angle 0 and we can do that until we reach point A in this picture

OpenStudy (phi):

we need to find the angle of that line, because after that angle the limits on rho change to the red circle

OpenStudy (dawnr):

okay, but how do i know my line goes exactly to A ?

OpenStudy (dawnr):

where the two circles overlap?

OpenStudy (phi):

once we pass point A, rho does not go to 1. (Look at the region you shaded in) can you find the (x,y) coords of A ?

OpenStudy (dawnr):

yes it's probably 1/2?

OpenStudy (phi):

yes, x is 1/2

OpenStudy (dawnr):

but why did we move the line?

OpenStudy (daniel.ohearn1):

Do you know how to integrate xy with respect to x?

OpenStudy (phi):

The "right part" of the region of integration has rho vary from 0 to 1 and theta from 0 to ?? (at point A) we can set up that integral and find the area the "left part" of the region has rho vary from 0 to 2 cos t t varies from ?? (at point A) to pi/2 when r is tangent to the circle. that is a different integral that we work out.

OpenStudy (phi):

**Do you know how to integrate xy with respect to x?*** I would not use rectangular coords for this problem. It's messy enough in polar coords!

OpenStudy (phi):

find (x,y) of point A, and then find the angle (using inverse tan (y/x) )

OpenStudy (daniel.ohearn1):

You know y would be a constant.. So integrate x dx

OpenStudy (daniel.ohearn1):

@DawnR

OpenStudy (dawnr):

i'm here

OpenStudy (daniel.ohearn1):

Use the reverse power rule and you have your answer with a rho or polar coord.

OpenStudy (daniel.ohearn1):

Well the first half.

OpenStudy (dawnr):

i am confused now because you are both taking different things, can someone draw me the picture or is the left side the left one from 0 to A ?

OpenStudy (dawnr):

i found that for A, x=1/2, what equation do i use to calc y?

OpenStudy (daniel.ohearn1):

The integral of xy with respect to x is y times I when I is the integral of x dx

OpenStudy (dawnr):

can you explain why am i doing the integral of xy?

OpenStudy (daniel.ohearn1):

You want the integral of this integral yes?

OpenStudy (dawnr):

is the yellow side the left one and the green one the right one?

OpenStudy (daniel.ohearn1):

From the inside out you have the integral of xy with respect to x over the integral with respect to y

OpenStudy (dawnr):

if i have integral of xy , where y is a constant that would be x^2/2

OpenStudy (dawnr):

so does y = x^2/2?

OpenStudy (daniel.ohearn1):

no, y is a constant remember so then your inside integral becomes yx^2 / 2

OpenStudy (dawnr):

okay, and what do i do with that?

OpenStudy (daniel.ohearn1):

Take the second integral with respect to y

OpenStudy (dawnr):

okay so that is xy^2/2

OpenStudy (daniel.ohearn1):

You want the integral of that with respect to y since we want the double

OpenStudy (dawnr):

can you write that as an equation, because i am not sure i follow?

OpenStudy (daniel.ohearn1):

\[\int\limits \int\limits xy dx dy \rightarrow \int\limits xy dx = I \rightarrow I= y \int\limits x dx = y (\frac{ x^2 }{ 2 })\]

OpenStudy (phi):

we probably do want to use rectangular coords with this one.

OpenStudy (daniel.ohearn1):

\[\int\limits I dI = \int\limits (\frac{ x^2 }{ 2 })y dy = \left( \frac{ x^2 }{ 2 }\right) \int\limits y dy = \frac{ x^2y^2 }{ 4} + c+ d\]

OpenStudy (dawnr):

what is d?

OpenStudy (daniel.ohearn1):

The constant for the second integral

OpenStudy (daniel.ohearn1):

Oh and c technically becomes cx as is typical when taking anti-derivatives.

OpenStudy (phi):

staying in x y coords |dw:1466554233323:dw|

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