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OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

thermo

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

@imqwerty

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

I am pretty sure I used the right formula, more concerned about my math.

imqwerty (imqwerty):

You took the log only on the left side in step three but not on the right side. Why?

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

Becuase I wasn't thinking.

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

fixing

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

when you apply e to n*ln(v) n will end up looking like e^n * v

imqwerty (imqwerty):

you mean \(e^{nln(v)}=e^{n \times v}\) ?

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

I didn't mean that but that is right. I checked in calculator.

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

I need to solve for V2

imqwerty (imqwerty):

well \(\large e^{ln(v) \times n} \ne e^{v \times n}\) \(e^{lnv \times n}\) = \((e^{ln(v)})^n\) \(e^{lnv \times n}\) = \((V)^n\) because \(\color{red}{a^{log_ab}=b}\)

imqwerty (imqwerty):

we know \(n,~P_1,~V_1,~P_2\) and now we can simply solve this equation \(P_1V_1^n=P_2V_2^n\) without using log

imqwerty (imqwerty):

\(V_1^n=\large \frac{P_2V_2^n}{P_1}\) \((V_1^n)^{\frac{1}{n}} =\left(\frac{P_2V_2^n}{P_1} \right)^\frac{1}{n}\)

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

nice, I was over complicating it.

imqwerty (imqwerty):

:)

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

For V2 = 0.0316m^3

imqwerty (imqwerty):

yes correct any ideas about finding the work done

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

w_b = (P1V1 - P2V2) / 1-n this is what I used.

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

that is wrong though

imqwerty (imqwerty):

yeah that^^ value will come out to be negative but the work done must be positive because the gas is expanding this is the correct formula to get the work done-\(\large \frac{P_2V_2-P_1V_1}{n-1}\)

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

yeah i got a positive answer

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

I got 21.6kJ

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

in this case work is done BY the system, other wise work would be done ON the system and the answer would be in kJ

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

question

imqwerty (imqwerty):

yeah i assumed that we are finding the work done by the system and if we want to calculate work done on the system then p1v1-p2v2/(n-1) is correct

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

I am confused about the difference between refrigerant and ideal gas... my instructor said refrigerant includes ideal gases as well.

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

How do you distingquish between an ideal gas that falls under refrigerant?

imqwerty (imqwerty):

hmm i haven't read about refrigerants can you give me a short description about them

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

saturations

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

like water.

imqwerty (imqwerty):

xD i don't get it

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

hmmm maybe i am confusing myself. I will ask her tomorrow after class. Thanks fo ryour help though.

imqwerty (imqwerty):

np :)) i'll check refrigerants later

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