A 200 liter tank initially full of water develops a leak at the bottom. Given that 20% of the water leaks out in the first 10 minutes, find the amount of water left in the tank t minutes after the leak develops if the water drains off at a rate that is proportional to the amount of water present.
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I think we have to use related rates with this problem
nah, I wish. This is for my chapter on differential equations. I need to use the formula for exponential growth and decay
woah, lol what class is that for?
just Cal II
its not actually differential equations lol
You said something about exponential growth and decay \[\frac{ dA }{ dt } = e^{-kt}*A_{0}\]
\[P=A _{0}e ^{-kt}\] Yea thats the one
@legomyego180 what else were you thinking?
I have a hunch on the equation? I think I need to solve for k, the decay constant first.
\[160=200e^{-k10}\]
how does that look to you?
Im getting \[k=-\frac{ \ln \frac{ 4 }{ 5 } }{ 10 }\] Which we can use to plug into our original equation to solve for t?
\[\frac{ 4 }{ 5 } = e^{-k*10}\] \[\ln(\frac{ 4 }{ 5 }) = -10k \] \[\frac{ \ln(\frac{ 4 }{ 5 }) }{ -10 } = k \]
yeah I agree :) but I feel there should be more to this problem?
Yea we need to plug k back into the original equation to solve for t but Im not sure what I need to do with the inital values variable and end value variable
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this is VERY similar to a Q u posted a few days ago: http://openstudy.com/study#/updates/577474a5e4b0140fe65398af u could easily re-use the same equation and solve for the different constants in this case.
they just need you to put back the k into the original equation (find the amount at t minutes)
The rate of change is proportional to the amount at t time, \(\large\rm A'=kA\) and solving for A gives us the equation for growth/decay that we're used to seeing, \(\large\rm A=A_o e^{kt}\) Ya looks like you guys got everything figured out :) \(\large\rm k=\dfrac{\ln.8}{10}\) Plugging it in gives you,\[\large\rm A(t)=200e^{\left(\frac{\ln.8}{10}~t\right)}\]
That's all they wanted.
You don't need a negative on the k when you setup the equation. The negative will come out naturally. But I guess it's ok if you do.
your initial amount is already included as P(0)= A = 200 when t = 0.
Gotcha, I think I actually have a fighting chance on this subject on my test tomorrow
In fact if they say that a proportion of the original was left at time t,, then you can always write: \[\frac{ P(t) }{ A } = C = e^{-kt}\] immediately on LHS for some constant C being the proportion.
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