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OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

torsion

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OpenStudy (mathmate):

Looking through your work, I think you had a mishap with both values of J. For J1,J3, the internal diameter should be Do-2t. For J2, for some reason, you used d=60 instead of d=65. Now about the approach. I see that the problem is anti-symmetric, i.e. segments 1 and 3 are identical, and Tb and Tc are equal and opposite in directions, which means that the mid-segment of segment 2 does not rotate at all. Taking advantage of this, we will solve instead half the problem, with the mid-section of segment taken as fixed. Hence L1=305; do=75; di=75-2*5=65;G1=45000; J1=(do^4-di^4)/32=1353830 L2=360/2;d2=65; G2=26000 J2=d2^4/32=1752481 Tb=10000000 Let T1=portion of Tb resisted by segment 1 T2=portion of Tb resisted by segment 2 (=Tb-T1) We then equate angles of twist of both sections, i.e. T1*L1/(G1*J1) = (Tb-T1)*L2/(G2*J2) and solve for T1=4410544 (hence T2=5589456). Solve for tau_1, tau_2 using TRmax/G, and phi=TL/(GJ). Please check all my assumptions and numerical data. You can post your values for checking.

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

before I look at this I want to just discuss briefly this problem with you.. Let me post it. The image is just difficult to interpret.

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

where F is located would that be the bottom of the gate?

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

I was discussing this with a classmate and I believe the bottom of the gate is where the F is located.

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

Do-2t? what?

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

I see what you mean by 2t

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

why is it twice the thickness?

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

for j1 and j3 i got 1.752x10^6 mm^4

OpenStudy (mathmate):

|dw:1468279827049:dw|

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

Okay that is what I thought I did originally but only subtracted one t, not 2.

OpenStudy (mathmate):

I get J1=J3=(75^4-65^4)\(\pi\)/32=1353830

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

okay I got it. Let me finish the other parts.

OpenStudy (mathmate):

For the hydrostatic problem, I think either h1 extends to the bottom of the tank, or there is a separate dimension for the depth. If h1 extends to the bottom, and since H2 >H1, then there is a chance that a force is required to keep the gate closed. You may want to check with your teacher for the possible error in the drawing/dimensioning.

OpenStudy (mathmate):

Yep, will compare notes when you finished the other parts.

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

@mathmate I am not understanding the analysis.

OpenStudy (mathmate):

which one, torsion?

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

why Tb - T1? I see that they are rotating in opposite directions, but why didn't you use -Tc + T2

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

we could have instead, right?

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

why did you say segment 2 won't twist? Is it because B and C have torques in opposite directions. The ends of segment 2 will twist.

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

Where do you get this equtions? T1*L1/(G1*J1) = (Tb-T1)*L2/(G2*J2)

OpenStudy (mathmate):

I did not consider Tc at all. The first part of the analysis is to observe the symmetry of the system.|dw:1468280843457:dw| The geometric properties of segments 1 & 3 are identical (length, material, dimensions...). So there is symmetry. The loads are anti-symmetric, Tb=-Tc. Therefore the mid-segment of BC does NOT rotate. I therefore simplify the shaft as half its length:|dw:1468281035447:dw| where BE=EC. The torque Tb is then split into two components, one for AB (T1), and the remainder (Tb-T1) for BE, such that the angle of twist is equal.

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