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OpenStudy (abbles):

True or false?

OpenStudy (abbles):

True for 17 and 18, right?

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Yes, as \[\csc^{-1}(\csc)\] and \[\sec(\sec^{-1})\] cancel each other out

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

@Astrophysics but there is restrictions on their domains to cancel each other out.

OpenStudy (abbles):

What kind of restrictions?

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Yes, that's true and rather then writing it all out you can check this out: http://users.math.msu.edu/users/gnagy/teaching/12-spring/mth133/l11-133.pdf

OpenStudy (abbles):

But both of these questions would be true... correct?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Do you understand why they are true though? :) Like.. do you understand why this one would be false?\[\large\rm \arccos\left[\cos\left(-\frac{\pi}{3}\right)\right]=-\frac{\pi}{3}\]

OpenStudy (abbles):

Zep, the equation is not showing up :/

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Refresh page maybe? :O

OpenStudy (abbles):

Oh, better! Okay... so that one would be false? Why? Because it's not part of the restricted function of cosine?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Yessss. Inverse cosine must spit out an angle in Q1 or Q2, right?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

So I think... I think... with these composition problems, you only need to be careful... when the inverse function is on the outside. When it's on the inside, it should always work out to be true... I think...

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

^that's not true (for cancellation purposes)

OpenStudy (abbles):

Right right. Hmmm. I'll keep an eye out. thanks for the heads up!

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Yeah, so both of yours would be true

OpenStudy (abbles):

what's not true?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

@Abbles my reply was to @zepdrix \[\large \cos ( \arccos 2) \] for example. They're just easier to spit.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

*spot...

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Oh true, they might give you some goofy shinanigans like that.

OpenStudy (abbles):

You crack me up xD So agent, cos(arccos2) would be undefined?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Yes, since the domain of arccos is [-1, 1] Just like the domain of cos is [0, pi] (for inverse cosine purposes) but... \[\large \arccos (\cos \frac{ 7\pi }{ 4 })\]is still defined. It is just equal to 7pi/4.

OpenStudy (abbles):

Wait, how is that last example still defined? If 7pi/4 is greater than pi?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Dammit. It is just NOT equal to 7pi/4.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

The last is still defined, because find the value of cos 7pi/4, THEN find the arccos of that value.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

XD

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

\[\large \cos \frac{ 7\pi }{ 4 }= \cos \frac{ \pi }{ 4 }\](look at a unit circle to see why) Thus, \[\large \arccos (\cos \frac{ 7\pi }{ 4 }) = \arccos (\cos \frac{ \pi }{ 4 }) = ?\]

OpenStudy (abbles):

Aha! I see what you're saying :) Lol. Thanks for explaining that!

zepdrix (zepdrix):

That sounds like a delicious poker hand. "I've got a full house, pi's over fours."

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Sorry... sometimes I make sense... and sometimes... -_-

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Similarly, \[\large \arccos ( \cos \frac{ 7\pi }{ 6 }) = \arccos (\cos \frac{ 5\pi }{ 6 }) = ?\]Again see a unit circle to see why you can do that with the angles

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

@zepdrix ha, I used to play poker for a living.

OpenStudy (abbles):

Rolling on the floor. Laughing. For real.

OpenStudy (abbles):

Rolling on the floor. Laughing. A DELICIOUS poker hand omg hahaha.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

haha XD

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Ya I had pie* on the brain. So the pi didn't make a lot of sense. Honestly, none of that sentence made sense though lol

zepdrix (zepdrix):

@agent0smith ooo nice :D I did pretty well for a couple years myself. Not enough to live off of though XD haha

OpenStudy (abbles):

You have pie on your brain? Makes sense... xD

OpenStudy (abbles):

Heyy Agent played poker, eh? Somehow that fits the image I had of you in my mind... serious... poker face... yeah

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Speaking of pie on the brain, I remember memorizing like 200 digits of pi for a school contest back in the day :) that was kinda fun lol forgotten all of it by now though XD

OpenStudy (abbles):

:O

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Really? I would have imagined MI6 or something. Secret aaaagent man!

OpenStudy (abbles):

Haha

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Haha, yep. It was my sole income for about four years. Not a great soul income, however.

OpenStudy (abbles):

Wow, impressive. And haha xD nice one.

OpenStudy (abbles):

Zep, you had so much pie in your brain, it pushed everything else out.

OpenStudy (abbles):

4 years... that's crazy. You must be one heck of a poker player.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

I'd say I'm pretty good. I don't play much seriously anymore, but I'm still pretty sharp. A few days ago I tutored a guy for a few hours, and that was fun - being paid to talk about poker.

OpenStudy (abbles):

That's awesome. Why'd you stop after four years?

OpenStudy (abbles):

If I ever decide to pick up poker as a hobby, I'll hit you up.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

US government decided to intervene with online poker, and, as they are wont to do, ruined things. Sure, I can give you an OS discount haha. I used to tutor poker friends on skype for free, but that's cos we'd be somewhat mutually helping each other learn/improve. I was teaching people about poker, before I was teaching anyone math/physics.

OpenStudy (yanasidlinskiy):

//\\ I'm a witness^^

OpenStudy (abbles):

Oooh. I see. The government is out of control. That's why I moved to Chile. Hah. OS discount? Awesome! Maybe when I'm not so swamped with school work, I'll hit you up on that offer.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

@YanaSidlinskiy witness to what? I know a few poker players who did the same (moved to Canada, Costa Rica, et al., to continue playing poker online). And sure :)

OpenStudy (abbles):

Costa Rica's a good one. Never heard of people moving to play poker online though! That's hilarious.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Well, some of the guys I knew made a lot of money, and they didn't want to give that up. And they were mostly young, single guys, so why not haha.

OpenStudy (abbles):

Ha! Very true. Might as well travel while you still can without worry about responsibilities and such.

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