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OpenStudy (jmars1129):

http://prntscr.com/bywr41 Can you give me an example problem so I can learn how to do this one?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Have you learned the quadratic formula?

OpenStudy (jmars1129):

If I did, I don't remember it.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

quadratic formula \[\Large x = \frac{-b\pm\sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

hopefully that looks familiar?

OpenStudy (jmars1129):

Oh, then no I have not, I took Pre-Algebra last year.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ok there's another way but it doesn't work for all quadratics

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

it will work for this case though

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

are you able to factor out the GCF?

OpenStudy (jmars1129):

Oh, uh. Could you teach me how?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

what factor do you see in 5, 60 and 180? what's common in all three?

OpenStudy (jmars1129):

5.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

divide each term by 5 5/5 = 1 60/5 = 12 180/5 = 36 so we would go from 5x^2 + 60x + 180 to 5*(1x^2 + 12x + 36)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you can distribute the 5 back in to get 5x^2 + 60x + 180 back again

OpenStudy (jmars1129):

Hang on, let me get something to write on.

OpenStudy (jmars1129):

I'm ready to learn. :)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

do you see how I went from 5x^2 + 60x + 180 to 5*(1x^2 + 12x + 36) ??

OpenStudy (jmars1129):

I'm not quite understanding how you turned 5x^2 into 5*(1x^2)?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

I divided 5 by itself 5/5 = 1

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

I also divided the other terms by 5 too 50/5 = 12 180/5 = 36

OpenStudy (jmars1129):

So why would the (5*) be there?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

60/5 = 12 I mean

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so that you can distribute the 5 back in to get the original expression again

OpenStudy (jmars1129):

Oh okay, I get it.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

it's like 2*(7x+5) = 2*7x + 2*5 = 14x+10

OpenStudy (jmars1129):

Mhm, yeah, distributive property.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

thinking backwards 14x/2 = 7x 10/2 = 5 so 14x+10 = 2*(7x+5)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

1x^2 + 12x + 36 is the same as x^2 + 12x + 36 to factor x^2 + 12x + 36 you need to think of numbers that multiply to 36 and add to 12

OpenStudy (jmars1129):

Perhaps 4?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

4 and what else?

OpenStudy (jmars1129):

Oh okay okay. Let's see... 2, 4, and 6?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

let's list out all the ways to multiply to 36 1*36 2*18 3*12 4*9 6*6 which pair of factors will add to 12?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

it's not 1 and 36 since 1+36 = 37

OpenStudy (jmars1129):

Oh, you asked what numbers to multiply, okay, got it.

OpenStudy (jmars1129):

2*6 3*4 12*1?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

let's list out all the ways to multiply to 36 1*36 2*18 3*12 4*9 6*6 which pair of factors will \(\Large \text{add}\) to 12? Something like 2 and 18 will not work. Yes they multiply to 36 2*18 = 36 but they do NOT add to 12 since 2+18 = 20

OpenStudy (jmars1129):

I'm thinking 6*6

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes 6*6 = 36 6+6 = 12

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so x^2+12x+36 factors to (x+6)(x+6)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

5x^2+60x+180 = 5*(x^2+12x+36) = 5*(x+6)*(x+6) So 5x^2+60x+180 = 0 will turn into 5*(x+6)*(x+6) = 0

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

what comes next?

OpenStudy (jmars1129):

I assume you multiply, or use distributive property.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

hint: If A*B = 0, then either A = 0 or B = 0

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

example: (x+2)*(x+5) = 0 means either x+2 = 0 or x+5 = 0

OpenStudy (jmars1129):

I'm not quite getting it.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

if you had 2*x = 0, then what must x be?

OpenStudy (jmars1129):

0.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

if you had x*y = 0, then either x is zero or y is zero. Agreed?

OpenStudy (jmars1129):

Yes.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

is it possible that x is not zero and y is not zero and have x*y = 0 still?

OpenStudy (jmars1129):

Oh, no.

OpenStudy (jmars1129):

One of the two terms might be a different number.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

This rule is known as the zero product property

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

zero product property: if x*y = 0, then either x = 0 or y = 0 (or both could be zero)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so we have (x+6)*(x+6) = 0 which means either x+6 = 0 or x+6 = 0 which boils down to just x+6 = 0

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

if x+6 = 0 then x = ???

OpenStudy (jmars1129):

-6?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes, so that wraps up the problem if 5x^2 + 60x + 180 = 0, then x = -6

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

what happens when you replace every x in 5x^2 + 60x + 180 with -6?

OpenStudy (jmars1129):

Lemme write it down, uno momento.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

un momento

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

and ok

OpenStudy (jmars1129):

I'm confused. 5x^2 = 5(-6)^2, as if -6 were to equal x?

OpenStudy (jmars1129):

And then (-30)^2, which is 900 right?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

it's not just 5x^2 it's 5x^2 + 60x + 180

OpenStudy (jmars1129):

Well, I'm aware of that, I was just trying to input x into that first part there.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

also 5(-6)^2 does not equal (-30)^2 you are using PEMDAS wrong

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

exponents come before multiplication

OpenStudy (jmars1129):

OH, I need PEMDAS, haha. Okay, one moment.

OpenStudy (jmars1129):

So (-6)^2 would be the first thing I do in that first part?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes

OpenStudy (jmars1129):

Is this right? http://prntscr.com/byx3r5

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

on the line where you have 5(-6)^2, I would have 60(-6)+180 = 0 added on as well

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

here's how I'd do it 5x^2 + 60x + 180 = 0 5(-6)^2 + 60(-6) + 180 = 0 5(36) + 60(-6) + 180 = 0 180 - 360 + 180 = 0 -180 + 180 = 0 0 = 0

OpenStudy (jmars1129):

I ended up doing that in a later step, but still got the right answer.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so that's how you would check to see if you got the right answer or not.

OpenStudy (jmars1129):

Thank you for so much for your help, I didn't mean to take up so much time. :P

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

that's ok. I'm glad I could help

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