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Combine loads

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part b

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@mathmate

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

I am here but I am cooking. lol I will be checking back and forth.

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okay I am back.

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@mathmate k back.

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Yes, I'm here now.

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

okay so what about part b?

OpenStudy (mathmate):

I checked you A,I,J and they're correct. and the moments Mx,My,Mz are good, including sign.

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Are you working with H or K?

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Oh, you're working with H. Let me look at the stresses.

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For Mx, I have 3.4 kN-m (not 3.46, perhaps just a typo)

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

let me look

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3.46x10^6 N-mm

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

yes I have 3.40 KN-m

OpenStudy (mathmate):

What formula did you use to calculate the transverse shear (not torsional)?

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

Which one is the transverse?

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So I get sigma_z=91.99 MPa (instead of 93)

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Direct shear due to Px or Py.

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

look under summary of stresses at H

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that is how i calculated the 93.775

OpenStudy (mathmate):

Yes, that's the one I am asking, the 26.757. I do not find the calculations for it.

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looking

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tau shear = tau xz = Fx*Q/Ix*d_outer

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I got 26.757MPa

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ok, so they both have the same sign.

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

for bending and shear i made them both negtaive

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tau_xz = -26.757 MPa - 59.241 MPa = -85.9MPa

OpenStudy (mathmate):

Using Mx=3.4x10^6, I get sigma_z=100.704, while you have 102.488. Wonder which one should be used.

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

BTW this question had multiple steps. I have everything right.

OpenStudy (mathmate):

Mine would give total sigma_z=100.704-8.712=91.992

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

Like 14 questions. So I know my work is good.

OpenStudy (mathmate):

ok, so you had all of them corrected already?

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yes, everything was accepted except I can't figure out part b (question I posted)

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Do you want to see all the questions?

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OpenStudy (mathmate):

this is 90 degrees to the principal stress (max or min), so this is the pure shear plane(at 45 degrees in real life, not mohr circle). I expect the sigma to be zero.

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

well that is what I thought too but it's wrong. I thought the sigma was zero. I have already tried this before.

OpenStudy (mathmate):

Did you put +0 or -0 or without sign?

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

just 0

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

I tried + or -, didn't like it.

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I am asking my friend what he got.

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I will wait to see what he came up with. I am going to the next problems. Thanks for looking at it.

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

my friend said it's suppose to be principal stress 2.

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

that makes sense. It's suppose to be -51 MPa

OpenStudy (mathmate):

Then they are referring to the real angles, not on the Mohr's circle. I agree with that, because at 45 degrees, you had the pure shear plane, which means that at 90 degrees, we have the other principal stress of -51.

OpenStudy (mathmate):

I should have spotted it because both parts (a) and (b) do not have shear stresses! lol

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and part (c) is just the sigma_av and max. shear.

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

Ah no worries. lol

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I only realized afterwards that you guys are not working with the Mohr circle, but the real cube.

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

Honestly, I am glad we are not working with the Mohrs circle... lol

OpenStudy (mathmate):

That was an interesting problem. Mohr circle is actually simpler in the sense that a circle is more concrete than a bunch of equations and formula. It can be visualized mentally and hence avoid certain mistakes.

OpenStudy (mathmate):

So it looks like you're at the last stretch of the course. Guess pressure vessels are next!

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

Nope, already did pressure vessel homework assignment. It was 3 problems. Super easy. lol

OpenStudy (mathmate):

Yeah, that true! But that's good. Did you do the three-(Mohr) circle part? lol

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

the what? what do you mean three-(Mohr) circle?

OpenStudy (mathmate):

There is a kind of problem where we're looking at sigma in all three directions, but sigma is always zero, so that ends up with three morh circles, two of which is inside the third. If you don't do Morh circles, then that would be done differently or not at all.

OpenStudy (mathmate):

*sigma z is always zero (z is along thickness of vessel)

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

Ah I see. Hmmm probably discussed in lecture, but I have not seen one of those problems yet.

OpenStudy (mathmate):

Better not than yes. It could be confusing! lol

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I'll let you go then! lol

OpenStudy (raffle_snaffle):

take care and have a good weekend!

OpenStudy (mathmate):

Good weekend to you too!

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