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OpenStudy (faiqraees):

@ganeshie8

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

but than you check this quadratic wrote above the discriminant is less than zero so have not real roots - yes ?

OpenStudy (faiqraees):

Yes

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

That means your textbook must be lying to you

OpenStudy (evoker):

I would agree, doesn't seem to be a true statement.

OpenStudy (faiqraees):

I think I should provide the complete statement

OpenStudy (faiqraees):

"If x = a+bi is a root of the equation f(x)=0 where f(x) is a polynomial with real coefficients then x = a-bi is also a root. So multiplying both gives us x²-2ax+a²+b² Thus a real quadratic factor of f(x) This mean that polynomial f(x), with real coefficients can be expressed as a product of real factors. None of which is of degree greater than 2. Whether we can find these factors is another story." Is this true?

OpenStudy (faiqraees):

It seems correct to me though

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Yes, that is a different statement. Complex roots always come in conjugate pairs, so you can always express a polyomial as a product of quadratic and linear factors.

OpenStudy (faiqraees):

I have two more questions. Can you help on them?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Sure, ask

OpenStudy (faiqraees):

This is regarding the proof If a polynomial equation has a complex root, they always occur in pair. Proof:- If x=a+bi then f(x) =c+di where c and d are real Even powers of bi are real and odd are imaginary So if the sign of b is changed, c remains same while sign of d changes If a+bi is a root then f(a+bi)= 0 c+di=0 c=0, d=0 c-di is also 0 Thus c-di is also 0 f(a-bi) = c-di a-bi is also a root

OpenStudy (faiqraees):

Is the last assumption, that if c-di is 0 then a-bi also becomes root, correct?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

f(a-bi) = c-di If above statement equals 0, then f(a-bi) = 0. Clearly a-bi is a zero / root.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Your proof looks nice !

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

sorry that i dont understand it clearly but than a-bi mean root of f(x) so than why f(a-bi) not eqaul zero and wrote above that f(a-bi)= c-di ?

OpenStudy (faiqraees):

Yeah okay, I realize it was a silly question. Now the main challenging problem If the roots of the equation \[\large\rm x^4-px^3+qx^2-pqx+1=0\ \] are a,b,c and d, show that \[\large\rm (a+b+c)(a+b+d)(b+c+d)(a+c+d)=1\ \]

OpenStudy (faiqraees):

\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @jhonyy9 sorry that i dont understand it clearly but than a-bi mean root of f(x) so than why f(a-bi) not eqaul zero and wrote above that f(a-bi)= c-di ? \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) Because you're taking the supposed hypothesis to be true. We have to prove that a-bi also becomes a root. Although it is obviously true, but we actually have to show why it is true. f(a-bi) is obviously going to give c-di Now the main thing was to show that c-di =0

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

ohhh - ok. ty

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Looks tricky! Could you post it as a separate question so that others also get a chance to try ?

OpenStudy (faiqraees):

Okay sure

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