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OpenStudy (abbles):

Limits Questions

OpenStudy (abbles):

13 and 15 are what I'm stuck on. For 13, f(a) = 81 But... then what? :/

OpenStudy (abbles):

Find the limit of (x + 2x^3)^4 when x approaches -1? How would I do that?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Step 1 with limits is always: `Try` to plug the value directly in.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

If that fails to work for some reason, we try other things.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\large\rm \lim_{x\to-1^{-}}(x+2x^3)^4=(-1+2(-1)^3)^4=3^4\] \[\large\rm \lim_{x\to-1^{+}}(x+2x^3)^4=(-1+2(-1)^3)^4=3^4\] \[\large\rm f(-1)=(-1+2(-1)^3)^4=3^4\] Yayyyyy we have continuity,\[\large\rm \lim_{x\to-1^-}f(x)\quad=\quad f(-1)\quad=\quad \lim_{x\to-1^+}f(x)\]

zepdrix (zepdrix):

For 15 we have to show continuity on an interval? Hmm thinking...

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Sec reading my book... A function \(f\) is said to be continuous on a closed interval [a,b] if the following conditions are satisfied: 1. f is continuous on (a,b). 2. f is continuous from the right at a. 3. f is continuous from the left at b.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Oh we don't have a closed interval though, woops

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Hmm...

OpenStudy (abbles):

The interval for #15 is (2, inf).. is that a closed interval?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

No, it has the rounded brackets so it's open. Open interval excludes the end points.

OpenStudy (abbles):

Ah, gotcha. hmmm

OpenStudy (abbles):

Plug in 2 for x? maybe?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Well notice that for 15, the only `bad place` is at x=2, ya? But 2 is not in our interval. It's excluded because it's the end point of our open interval (round bracket). So our function is clearly continuous for all x besides x=2. I just can't think of how they want us to explain that using limits though... hmm

OpenStudy (abbles):

Would x = 2 be an asymptote? A removable discontinuity? How would I tell?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

It will be asymptotic unless `the denominator cancels with something in the numerator`. If you're able to remove the factor in the denominator through cancellation then it produces a removable discontinuity. Examples:\[\large\rm f(x)=\frac{2x+3}{x-2}\]f has an asymptote at x=2.\[\large\rm g(x)=\frac{x^2-4}{x-2}=\quad\frac{(x+2)(x-2)}{x-2}=\quad x+2,\qquad x\ne2\]g has a removable discontinuity at x=2. It would look like a normal curve with a small hole in it.

OpenStudy (abbles):

Good to know! How can I tell the difference between a vertical asymptote and a horizontal one?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Horizontal asymptotes only occur at the way way end points of a graph. Way off in the sunset. So you find horizontal asymptotes by letting x get really really huge \((x\to\infty)\) or really really small \((x\to-\infty)\)

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Vertical asymptotes are always produced by these bad denominators.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

This is how I would explain 15, but I know it's not what they're looking for: f is a rational function of the form P(x)/Q(x). It is discontinuous when Q(x)=0. So our function f is discontinuous at x-2=0 or x=2. Since our open interval \((2,\infty)\) does not contain 2, f is continuous on this interval.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Grr how we use limits though :c we need sweetpotato's help maybe @sweetburger

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Sweet potato french fries :O~ Amirite?

OpenStudy (abbles):

It's okay, it's not graded or anything... I'm just studying for the quiz tomorrow. But I understand what you're saying so :)

OpenStudy (abbles):

SWEET POTATO FRENCH FRIES <3 <3 <3

zepdrix (zepdrix):

No joke... when I was growing up.. I HATED sweet potatoes with a passion. My mom would make them every Thanksgiving with like sugar and cinnamon and stuff. It was so gross... I had no idea how delicious they were until I was older and got a hold of some salt.

OpenStudy (abbles):

I swear. We're the same person. I don't like the sugared/buttered sweet potatoes either; cube them up with some pink himilayan salt? The heavens have opened :D

zepdrix (zepdrix):

WHAT!? GET OUT OF MY BRAIN +_+ I have this big bag of Himalayan pink salt in the cabinet :O It's a little wimpier than table salt, have to use more of it, but it's tasty :D

OpenStudy (sweetburger):

I think your explanation for why \[\frac{ 2x+3 }{ x-2 }\] is continuous, is perfectly viable @zepdrix. You wouldnt get much use (if any use) out of limits here.

OpenStudy (sweetburger):

I guess you could take the limit as x approaches 2 from the positive side, but would that tell us? not much except that the graph shoots off to infinity confirming an asymptote which is outside the interval.

OpenStudy (abbles):

.... you must be one of my brothers. Or my dad. Do you live in Chile, zep? o.O

OpenStudy (abbles):

Alright, thanks sweet potato.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Naw, Florida, Usa :D

OpenStudy (abbles):

Hmmmm That's where my dad was born... Maybe you're his twin.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

haha naw XD I wasn't born here. and I'm not old enough to be your daddy lolol :D

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