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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
I need assistance with finding the area of shaded squares.
https://uttia2.owschools.com/media/g_geo_2015/8/groupi57.gif - Particular square in question.
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OpenStudy (evoker):
It looks to me like perhaps a square minus a quarter circle
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
So would is be 6 squared minus the area of the quarter square?
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OpenStudy (evoker):
That would be my guess
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OpenStudy (evoker):
so 36-1/4 pi r^2
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
so 36 - .25 ^ pi * 2 * 6?
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OpenStudy (evoker):
36-.25*pi*6*6
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
6^6?
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OpenStudy (evoker):
No 6^2 or six squared
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OpenStudy (evoker):
I get approx 7.73 for the answer
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
What would that be in an A = __ - _PI
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OpenStudy (evoker):
ok 36-9 pi since .25*6*6 is 9
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
Alright, can you help me with another?
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OpenStudy (evoker):
Sure
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
I need to find the area of the shaded square
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OpenStudy (evoker):
Looks like (square minus quarter circle) times two to me.
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
Ahhh. I see it now. Alright I'll plug in the numbers. Give me one second.
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OpenStudy (evoker):
If you need the same format looks like 8-2pi
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
-21.1327412287 this is what I got.
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OpenStudy (evoker):
I get approx 1.72
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
How'd you get that?
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OpenStudy (evoker):
ok one of those pieces is a square minus a quarter circle
so 2^2-.25*pi*2^2
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OpenStudy (evoker):
That is 4-pi
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OpenStudy (evoker):
There are two of those pieces so two times that result or 8-2pi
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
what about the pi*2*2?
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OpenStudy (evoker):
don't forget it is a quarter circle so you need the .25 factor
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
Oh yeah.
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OpenStudy (evoker):
I'ts a triangle minus 3 fractional circles, trying to figure out the circle fractions now.
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OpenStudy (evoker):
Ok it's 60 degrees so those are 1/6 circles
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OpenStudy (evoker):
So triangle minus 3 1/6th circles or triangle - 1/2 circle
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
It would be 360 divided by 60 right? Because the angles would be central angles and the triangle would have 60, 60, 60 angles?
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OpenStudy (evoker):
Yeah or rather 60/360 so 1/6 circles.
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OpenStudy (evoker):
And lets see the area of the triangle would be 1/2 b*h with a base of 12 and a height of sqrt 27
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
Then would we multiply that by two?
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OpenStudy (evoker):
which simplifies to 18 sqrt 3 for the triangle area
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OpenStudy (evoker):
and times .5 so .5*12*sqrt 27
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OpenStudy (evoker):
which reduces to 18 sqrt 3
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
For the area of the triangle?
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OpenStudy (evoker):
Yes for the triangle area
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OpenStudy (evoker):
I used pythagoras to figure out the height by the way.
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
Then would we do 18 sqrt 3 - .1666 (PI * 3 squared?)
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OpenStudy (evoker):
close there are 3 1/6 circles so a net of a half circle
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
So 18 sqrt 3 - .5 (pi * 3 squared)?
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OpenStudy (evoker):
yeah
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OpenStudy (evoker):
or 18 sqrt 3 - 4.5 pi
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
Odd, I can't put in 18 sqrt 3. it give me _ sqrt _ instead of __ sqrt _
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OpenStudy (evoker):
well we could factor 9 out of it.
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OpenStudy (evoker):
so 2 sqrt 3 -.5 pi
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
It won't accept the 2 either.
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OpenStudy (evoker):
Let me just double check the triangle area,
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
Okay.
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OpenStudy (evoker):
oops base of 6 not 12
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OpenStudy (evoker):
height is still sqrt 27 though
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OpenStudy (evoker):
so halve the first part
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OpenStudy (evoker):
9 sqrt 3 - 4.5 pi
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
Or 9 sqrt 3 9/2?
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OpenStudy (evoker):
sure 9 sqrt (3) - 9/2 pi
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OpenStudy (evoker):
\[9\sqrt{3}-\frac{ 9 }{ 2 } \pi\]
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OpenStudy (evoker):
Ooh getting tricky still the shaded region?
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
Yes.
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OpenStudy (evoker):
Hmm just to check, no calculus needed right.
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
Its geometry and I've learned only a little bit of trig, so I'd assume no.
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OpenStudy (evoker):
Well the bottom is a half circle, the top is a lot trickier.
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
Should we start with the semi circle half then?
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OpenStudy (evoker):
Sure that bit will be easy 1/2 pi r^2
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
so half pi 6 * 2?
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
sorry I meant 6 squared.
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OpenStudy (evoker):
yeah or in other words 18 pi
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
Could we use ratios to find the other half?
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OpenStudy (evoker):
Possibly what did you have in mind?
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OpenStudy (evoker):
I think we may be able to get away with and I can't quite explain it that we have half a radius missing
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
The semi circles are only 6 high because of the radii and the non-shaded segment is only 3.
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OpenStudy (evoker):
So we should (1/2)^2 of a circle area
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OpenStudy (evoker):
or I think that might be a quarter circle of area on top.
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OpenStudy (evoker):
If that was the case we would have 9 pi of area up there for a total of 27pi in shaded area.
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
I'll try that
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OpenStudy (evoker):
er or maybe I should say a 1/4 of a half circle
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
in the A = _ pi - _ sqrt _ format would it be _ pi - 9 sqrt 3?
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OpenStudy (evoker):
Hmm no sqrt involved so I guess this must not be right.
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
what would be the _ pi?
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OpenStudy (evoker):
one possibity is 27
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
its only one space so it can't be
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OpenStudy (evoker):
Just to confirm that dot is the center of the circle correct.
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
the 12? It doesn't say but I'd assume so.
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
Wait
I think I can put in 27.
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
Turns out there are two slots but it still won't accept 27
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OpenStudy (evoker):
how about 22.5, or rather how many attempts do you get?
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OpenStudy (evoker):
22.5 would be a 1/2 circle + 1/8 circle.
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
Given I only have 2 slots and not 4 I don't think I can do 22.5
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OpenStudy (evoker):
Ok I've done some research looks like we need to draw some right triangles.
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
Oh boy!
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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):
Where does it go?
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OpenStudy (evoker):
Hmm maybe not but it would go from the center to the edge and to the edge of the circle
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OpenStudy (evoker):
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