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OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

I need assistance with finding the area of shaded squares. https://uttia2.owschools.com/media/g_geo_2015/8/groupi57.gif - Particular square in question.

OpenStudy (evoker):

It looks to me like perhaps a square minus a quarter circle

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

So would is be 6 squared minus the area of the quarter square?

OpenStudy (evoker):

That would be my guess

OpenStudy (evoker):

so 36-1/4 pi r^2

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

so 36 - .25 ^ pi * 2 * 6?

OpenStudy (evoker):

36-.25*pi*6*6

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

6^6?

OpenStudy (evoker):

No 6^2 or six squared

OpenStudy (evoker):

I get approx 7.73 for the answer

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

What would that be in an A = __ - _PI

OpenStudy (evoker):

ok 36-9 pi since .25*6*6 is 9

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

Alright, can you help me with another?

OpenStudy (evoker):

Sure

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

I need to find the area of the shaded square

OpenStudy (evoker):

Looks like (square minus quarter circle) times two to me.

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

Ahhh. I see it now. Alright I'll plug in the numbers. Give me one second.

OpenStudy (evoker):

If you need the same format looks like 8-2pi

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

-21.1327412287 this is what I got.

OpenStudy (evoker):

I get approx 1.72

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

How'd you get that?

OpenStudy (evoker):

ok one of those pieces is a square minus a quarter circle so 2^2-.25*pi*2^2

OpenStudy (evoker):

That is 4-pi

OpenStudy (evoker):

There are two of those pieces so two times that result or 8-2pi

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

what about the pi*2*2?

OpenStudy (evoker):

don't forget it is a quarter circle so you need the .25 factor

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

Oh yeah.

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

https://uttia2.owschools.com/media/g_geo_2015/8/groupi56.gif and this one would be 33.333% of the triangle correct?

OpenStudy (evoker):

I'ts a triangle minus 3 fractional circles, trying to figure out the circle fractions now.

OpenStudy (evoker):

Ok it's 60 degrees so those are 1/6 circles

OpenStudy (evoker):

So triangle minus 3 1/6th circles or triangle - 1/2 circle

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

It would be 360 divided by 60 right? Because the angles would be central angles and the triangle would have 60, 60, 60 angles?

OpenStudy (evoker):

Yeah or rather 60/360 so 1/6 circles.

OpenStudy (evoker):

And lets see the area of the triangle would be 1/2 b*h with a base of 12 and a height of sqrt 27

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

Then would we multiply that by two?

OpenStudy (evoker):

which simplifies to 18 sqrt 3 for the triangle area

OpenStudy (evoker):

and times .5 so .5*12*sqrt 27

OpenStudy (evoker):

which reduces to 18 sqrt 3

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

For the area of the triangle?

OpenStudy (evoker):

Yes for the triangle area

OpenStudy (evoker):

I used pythagoras to figure out the height by the way.

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

Then would we do 18 sqrt 3 - .1666 (PI * 3 squared?)

OpenStudy (evoker):

close there are 3 1/6 circles so a net of a half circle

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

So 18 sqrt 3 - .5 (pi * 3 squared)?

OpenStudy (evoker):

yeah

OpenStudy (evoker):

or 18 sqrt 3 - 4.5 pi

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

Odd, I can't put in 18 sqrt 3. it give me _ sqrt _ instead of __ sqrt _

OpenStudy (evoker):

well we could factor 9 out of it.

OpenStudy (evoker):

so 2 sqrt 3 -.5 pi

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

It won't accept the 2 either.

OpenStudy (evoker):

Let me just double check the triangle area,

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

Okay.

OpenStudy (evoker):

oops base of 6 not 12

OpenStudy (evoker):

height is still sqrt 27 though

OpenStudy (evoker):

so halve the first part

OpenStudy (evoker):

9 sqrt 3 - 4.5 pi

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

Or 9 sqrt 3 9/2?

OpenStudy (evoker):

sure 9 sqrt (3) - 9/2 pi

OpenStudy (evoker):

\[9\sqrt{3}-\frac{ 9 }{ 2 } \pi\]

OpenStudy (evoker):

Ooh getting tricky still the shaded region?

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

Yes.

OpenStudy (evoker):

Hmm just to check, no calculus needed right.

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

Its geometry and I've learned only a little bit of trig, so I'd assume no.

OpenStudy (evoker):

Well the bottom is a half circle, the top is a lot trickier.

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

Should we start with the semi circle half then?

OpenStudy (evoker):

Sure that bit will be easy 1/2 pi r^2

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

so half pi 6 * 2?

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

sorry I meant 6 squared.

OpenStudy (evoker):

yeah or in other words 18 pi

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

Could we use ratios to find the other half?

OpenStudy (evoker):

Possibly what did you have in mind?

OpenStudy (evoker):

I think we may be able to get away with and I can't quite explain it that we have half a radius missing

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

The semi circles are only 6 high because of the radii and the non-shaded segment is only 3.

OpenStudy (evoker):

So we should (1/2)^2 of a circle area

OpenStudy (evoker):

or I think that might be a quarter circle of area on top.

OpenStudy (evoker):

If that was the case we would have 9 pi of area up there for a total of 27pi in shaded area.

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

I'll try that

OpenStudy (evoker):

er or maybe I should say a 1/4 of a half circle

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

in the A = _ pi - _ sqrt _ format would it be _ pi - 9 sqrt 3?

OpenStudy (evoker):

Hmm no sqrt involved so I guess this must not be right.

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

what would be the _ pi?

OpenStudy (evoker):

one possibity is 27

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

its only one space so it can't be

OpenStudy (evoker):

Just to confirm that dot is the center of the circle correct.

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

the 12? It doesn't say but I'd assume so.

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

Wait I think I can put in 27.

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

Turns out there are two slots but it still won't accept 27

OpenStudy (evoker):

how about 22.5, or rather how many attempts do you get?

OpenStudy (evoker):

22.5 would be a 1/2 circle + 1/8 circle.

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

Given I only have 2 slots and not 4 I don't think I can do 22.5

OpenStudy (evoker):

Ok I've done some research looks like we need to draw some right triangles.

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

Oh boy!

OpenStudy (hazmatpuppy):

Where does it go?

OpenStudy (evoker):

Hmm maybe not but it would go from the center to the edge and to the edge of the circle

OpenStudy (evoker):

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