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OpenStudy (asylum15):

- Does anyone have a decent knowledge of the transportation algorithm?

OpenStudy (mathmate):

Post a sample problem, and you'll get realistic answers to the above question. lol

OpenStudy (asylum15):

Math, you're correct, but since it's a method which encapsulates so many steps, I'm looking for help with a small specific step, not the entire thing lol. :)

OpenStudy (mathmate):

@Asylum15 Perhaps you could post just the step to start, if that makes it easier. If there is a link to the complete problem, it will give a better context. Math related or engineering related? If latter, you have a better chance posting it under engineering.

OpenStudy (asylum15):

It's a mathematical method. Not a complex concept, but very difficult to find people with knowledge of it. I appreciate your advice, will post an example now.

OpenStudy (asylum15):

OpenStudy (asylum15):

The aim of this problem is to minimise cost.

OpenStudy (asylum15):

When you reach a table like the above, EVERY textbook, website etc I've found says the following, ''Because the transportation model seeks to minimize cost, the entering variable is the one having the most positive coefficient'' So in the above table, our most positive value is the 11. Thats fine.

OpenStudy (asylum15):

Or A3.

OpenStudy (thewafflebro):

hmmmmm

OpenStudy (asylum15):

However, in another example my lecturer has done, he has chosen the wrong value in my eyes, the NONE most positive, and I can't figure out why! I'll attach a picture now.

OpenStudy (thewafflebro):

ok

OpenStudy (asylum15):

Same type of table.

OpenStudy (asylum15):

If we base it off the printed example above, we'd pick the 12 right? Or B2. But according to my lecturer, we pick the -1, or C1 in the table. -1 is not the most positive value in the table, and it is still a minimisation problem. Don't understand it..

OpenStudy (asylum15):

To help, our SAVINGS are the numbers in BLACK above. We must choose the most positive saving value according to the rules.

OpenStudy (asylum15):

Probably have you all confused, apologies if so, I can answer any questions to help....

OpenStudy (mathmate):

I personally think it would help if we have the context, like the complete problem definition, not necessarily the complete solution. If the algorithm has a name, please name it. It sounds to me it is related to linear optimization problems, possibly involving graph theory. Each algorithm has specific limitations, e.g. discrete steps, discrete costs, etc. With the complete problem definition, it is much easier to identify what you're trying to do, and how to arrive at this step.

OpenStudy (asylum15):

I understand Math. A context, and an example.

OpenStudy (asylum15):

Problem.

OpenStudy (asylum15):

Continued...

OpenStudy (asylum15):

Continued... to my point.

OpenStudy (mathmate):

What do you get using your method? I get 930 with a greedy algorithm.

OpenStudy (asylum15):

930 is correct Math.

OpenStudy (mathmate):

But it doesn't answer your question! lol I have to look in detail what your method is trying to do, and try to answer your questions. I have to go, and won't be back before very late tonight. I hope in the mean time someone has a chance to look into it.

OpenStudy (asylum15):

Question, how did you get 930 so quickly? I may be able to check the final solution of this other one, to check if it's incorrect.

OpenStudy (asylum15):

argh!!!! My lecturer made a mistake. :'(

OpenStudy (mathmate):

I call it a greedy algorithm, but it only resembles the greedy algorithm. A typical greedy algorithm will first assign least expensive resources, and in that order to complete the problem. Time out.... Does that mean you found an explanation to your problem?

OpenStudy (asylum15):

He chose the wrong coefficient.... The entire problem after is incorrect in my notes. I understand the issue.

OpenStudy (mathmate):

Ok, so your algorithm is working then! :)

OpenStudy (asylum15):

Yes. Thank you so much for the help, and your time. Also to @ganeshie8 who had a watchful eye over this.

OpenStudy (mathmate):

No problem, you're welcome! :)

OpenStudy (thewafflebro):

heh barely finished that was a long one

OpenStudy (asylum15):

Transport Algorithms can be 10-15 A4 pages!

OpenStudy (thewafflebro):

wow!!!!

OpenStudy (mathmate):

What did you get, bro?

OpenStudy (asylum15):

525 Units

OpenStudy (asylum15):

Sorry, I thought you were asking me Math a haha!

OpenStudy (mathmate):

So 525 instead of 930?

OpenStudy (asylum15):

No no, 930 is correct. In the 2nd example where he made an error, 525 is the correct answer, verified.

OpenStudy (mathmate):

Whew!

OpenStudy (asylum15):

These damn lecturers! :p

OpenStudy (mathmate):

Hey, everybody makes mistakes, perhaps it's his first year teaching. Yes, mistakes in notes are annoying, agreed!

OpenStudy (asylum15):

Just a light joke! I wouldn't like the responsibility of teaching final year honours biomedical engineering!

OpenStudy (mathmate):

Nice talking to you! All the best to your academic career!

OpenStudy (asylum15):

You too.

OpenStudy (mathmate):

Thank you! ;)

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