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OpenStudy (abbles):

Intermediate Value Theorem numero dos

OpenStudy (abbles):

Use the IVT to show that there is a root of the given equation in the specified interval. \[x^4 + x - 3 = 0, (1, 2)\]

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

These are easy, Abbles. Plug in x=1, then x=2.

OpenStudy (abbles):

I was thinking about plugging in 1 and 2, but since the interval uses parentheses instead of brackets I wasn't sure...

OpenStudy (abbles):

LOL okay :D

OpenStudy (abbles):

Both do not equal zero, so there is no solution in the interval?

OpenStudy (abbles):

Actually... 1 gives me -1 and 2 gives 15... 0 is between there, so there would be a solution

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

|dw:1471107421952:dw| Can you get from A to B, with one continuous line, without crossing the x-axis?

OpenStudy (abbles):

:P I see

OpenStudy (abbles):

Calculus complicated simple problems. okay!

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

"since the interval uses parentheses instead of brackets I wasn't sure..." I think that's part of the definition of IVT, that it's an open interval.

OpenStudy (abbles):

Oh, I'm not sure... wouldn't it work with a closed interval too though? If a function is continuous between x and y... it will include all the values from x to y...

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

http://www.sosmath.com/calculus/limcon/limcon06/limcon06.html Hmm seems like it is a closed interval. Could just be a typo though.

OpenStudy (abbles):

Here is the definition my teacher gave me: If f(x) is continuous on a closed interval [a, b] and f(a) doesn't equal f(b), then for every value M between f(a) and f(b) there exists at least one value c (a weird E symbol) (a, b) such that f(x) = M So would this not work for a closed interval? I'm confused

OpenStudy (abbles):

Yes, so that looks the same.. would it not work on an open interval?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

(a weird E symbol) :D

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

I don't know what its name is but it means "is an element of". I prefer your description.

OpenStudy (abbles):

Lol

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

I guess it technically wouldn't work on an open interval. Like in this case, if the value at x=1 was on the x-axis, and the value at x>1 was above it, since then it wouldn't actually have a root... idk.

OpenStudy (abbles):

Hmmm... D:

OpenStudy (abbles):

The question says to show that there is a root in the interval, so I'm assuming there IS one? Or do they want me to prove it doesn't exist?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

No, you just show that there is a negative y-value, and a positive y-value, and then by the IVT, there must exist a zero y-value in there. Like if you have one slice of bread, and another slice of bread above it, there must be peanut butter between them.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

That's known as the PBT.

OpenStudy (abbles):

"I guess it technically wouldn't work on an open interval." Isn't (1, 2) an open interval?

OpenStudy (abbles):

Hahaha xD *almond butter theorem

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Yeah but i feel like it may have been a typo. Okay, the ABT.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

I looked at almond butter at Trader Joe's yesterday. Didn't buy any. Also didn't buy peanut butter either, i'd rather get the giant costco sized ones.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Google has some interesting things if you google "intermediate value theorem on an open interval"

OpenStudy (abbles):

Here is the problem in the book.. :/

OpenStudy (abbles):

Also, I had to pass up the almond butter at wholefoods a couple days ago. Outrageously priced. I'm back to making my own almond butter. A little time consuming to soak/dehydrate/roast the almonds, but it tastes better anyway.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Hey what book is that? Looks familiar. It was only like $2.50 ish at Trader Joe's, about the same as the PB. That sounds pretty good... Abbles-made almond butter.

OpenStudy (abbles):

Stewart Differential Calculus (AP Edition)\ Almond butter the same price as PB? No way.

OpenStudy (abbles):

You really think it's a typo? perplexing.

OpenStudy (abbles):

Almond butter and abbles go good together, what can I say.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

It might have been a little more, I don't really remember. I don't know, but i don't think it makes much difference. I bet they do :D

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

I think I tutored a girl a couple of years ago who used that book. One time she gave me this delicious Cuban food. She was pretty cool.

OpenStudy (abbles):

Hahahaha xD So should I assume the book is a typo? I'll ask my teacher when I get the chance, but we have a test monday and she'll be absent :O

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

It's probably fine and doesn't make a difference, since those functions would all be continuous. It'd only be an issue if a function is continuous on (a, b) but not on [a, b]. In short: i wouldn't even worry about it.

OpenStudy (abbles):

Okay, thanks angel :)

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Welcome Pebbles :)

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