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OpenStudy (hdrager):

Find the points of intersection for the given equations

OpenStudy (hdrager):

\[x=3-y^2\]

OpenStudy (hdrager):

\[y=x-1\]

OpenStudy (hdrager):

I tried to use the substitution method but got stuck in the middle of both x and y

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

the second equation is y = x-1. This means 'y' and 'x-1' are equivalent. We can replace every copy of 'y' with 'x-1' and vice versa So let's do that in the first equation \[\Large x = 3 - y^2\] \[\Large x = 3 - (y)^2\] \[\Large x = 3 - ({\color{red}{y}})^2\] \[\Large x = 3 - ({\color{red}{x-1}})^2\] Hopefully that makes sense so far?

OpenStudy (hdrager):

yeah i got a little farther than that when I got stuck

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

how far did you get?

OpenStudy (hdrager):

like i distributed and then didn't know what to do

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

show me what you got for your last step

OpenStudy (hdrager):

x=2-x^2

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

did you FOIL out (x-1)^2 ?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you need to FOIL before you can distribute

OpenStudy (hdrager):

yeah before that i FOILed

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Also, \[\Large (x-1)^2 \ne x^2 + 1^2\]

OpenStudy (hdrager):

oh snap i just saw a mistake I made

OpenStudy (hdrager):

okay now I have x= -x^2-2x+4

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

\[\Large x = 3 - (x-1)^2\] \[\Large x = 3 - (x^2-2x+1)\] \[\Large x = 3 - x^2+2x-1\] \[\Large x = -x^2+2x+2\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Be careful when it comes to distributing. You need to multiply the outer -1 by EVERY term inside

OpenStudy (hdrager):

okay I'm not really sure what to do now since it can't be factored

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Get everything to one side. Then use the quadratic formula.

OpenStudy (hdrager):

so it = 0?

OpenStudy (hdrager):

ans then I use the quadratic formula?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes correct

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Tell me what solutions you get

OpenStudy (hdrager):

okay I'm stuck again with\[x=\frac{ 3+/-\sqrt{17} }{ -2 }\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

\[\Large x = -x^2+2x+2\] \[\Large x-x = -x^2+2x+2-x\] \[\Large 0 = -x^2+x+2\] \[\Large -x^2+x+2 = 0\] \[\Large -1*(x^2-x-2) = 0\] \[\Large x^2-x-2 = 0\] Hopefully you can see that a = 1, b = -1 and c = -2?

OpenStudy (hdrager):

I MADE A REALLY SIMPLE MISTAKE I'M SORRY

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

that's ok

OpenStudy (hdrager):

okay i got x=5 and 4

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

incorrect

OpenStudy (hdrager):

ahh what did I do

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

what is the value of b^2 - 4ac ?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

a = 1, b = -1 and c = -2 b^2 - 4ac = (-1)^2 - 4*(1)*(-2) = ????

OpenStudy (hdrager):

7

OpenStudy (hdrager):

so x = 4 and 3

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

(-1)^2 = 1 4*(1)*(-2) = -8

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

b^2 - 4ac = (-1)^2 - 4*(1)*(-2) b^2 - 4ac = 1 - (-8) b^2 - 4ac = 1 + 8 b^2 - 4ac = 9

OpenStudy (hdrager):

wait that's what I got before

OpenStudy (hdrager):

so x= 1 and 2

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

\[\Large x = \frac{-b\pm\sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}\] \[\Large x = \frac{-(-1)\pm\sqrt{(-1)^2 - 4*(1)*(-2)}}{2(1)}\] \[\Large x = \frac{1\pm\sqrt{9}}{2}\] I'll let you finish

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

`so x= 1 and 2` one of those is correct

OpenStudy (hdrager):

2

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

\[\Large x = \frac{1\pm\sqrt{9}}{2}\] \[\Large x = \frac{1\pm 3}{2}\] \[\Large x = \frac{1+3}{2} \ \ \text{ or } \ \ x = \frac{1-3}{2}\] \[\Large x = \frac{4}{2} \ \ \text{ or } \ \ x = \frac{-2}{2}\] \[\Large x = 2 \ \ \text{ or } \ \ x = -1\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so the solutions to \[\Large x = 3 - (x-1)^2\] are x = 2 or x = -1

OpenStudy (hdrager):

oh i thought you meant only one of them worked after plugging t back in

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

if x = 2, then what is the value of y?

OpenStudy (hdrager):

1

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

correct if x = 2, then y = 1 so one point of intersection is (x,y) = (2,1) what is the other point of intersection?

OpenStudy (hdrager):

(-1,-2)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

correct

OpenStudy (hdrager):

oh my gosh thank you so much

OpenStudy (hdrager):

sorry it took me so long to get this

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

geogebra confirms these answers

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

For some reason, geogebra changed \(\Large x = 3-y^2\) into \(\Large y^2+x = 3\)

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