Find the points of intersection for the given equations
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OpenStudy (hdrager):
\[x=3-y^2\]
OpenStudy (hdrager):
\[y=x-1\]
OpenStudy (hdrager):
I tried to use the substitution method but got stuck in the middle of both x and y
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
the second equation is y = x-1. This means 'y' and 'x-1' are equivalent. We can replace every copy of 'y' with 'x-1' and vice versa
So let's do that in the first equation
\[\Large x = 3 - y^2\]
\[\Large x = 3 - (y)^2\]
\[\Large x = 3 - ({\color{red}{y}})^2\]
\[\Large x = 3 - ({\color{red}{x-1}})^2\]
Hopefully that makes sense so far?
OpenStudy (hdrager):
yeah i got a little farther than that when I got stuck
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
how far did you get?
OpenStudy (hdrager):
like i distributed and then didn't know what to do
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
show me what you got for your last step
OpenStudy (hdrager):
x=2-x^2
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
did you FOIL out (x-1)^2 ?
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
you need to FOIL before you can distribute
OpenStudy (hdrager):
yeah before that i FOILed
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
Also,
\[\Large (x-1)^2 \ne x^2 + 1^2\]
OpenStudy (hdrager):
oh snap i just saw a mistake I made
OpenStudy (hdrager):
okay now I have x= -x^2-2x+4
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
\[\Large x = 3 - (x-1)^2\]
\[\Large x = 3 - (x^2-2x+1)\]
\[\Large x = 3 - x^2+2x-1\]
\[\Large x = -x^2+2x+2\]
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
Be careful when it comes to distributing. You need to multiply the outer -1 by EVERY term inside
OpenStudy (hdrager):
okay I'm not really sure what to do now since it can't be factored
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
Get everything to one side. Then use the quadratic formula.
OpenStudy (hdrager):
so it = 0?
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OpenStudy (hdrager):
ans then I use the quadratic formula?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
yes correct
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
Tell me what solutions you get
OpenStudy (hdrager):
okay I'm stuck again with\[x=\frac{ 3+/-\sqrt{17} }{ -2 }\]
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
\[\Large x = -x^2+2x+2\]
\[\Large x-x = -x^2+2x+2-x\]
\[\Large 0 = -x^2+x+2\]
\[\Large -x^2+x+2 = 0\]
\[\Large -1*(x^2-x-2) = 0\]
\[\Large x^2-x-2 = 0\]
Hopefully you can see that a = 1, b = -1 and c = -2?
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OpenStudy (hdrager):
I MADE A REALLY SIMPLE MISTAKE I'M SORRY
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
that's ok
OpenStudy (hdrager):
okay i got x=5 and 4
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
incorrect
OpenStudy (hdrager):
ahh what did I do
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
what is the value of b^2 - 4ac ?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
a = 1, b = -1 and c = -2
b^2 - 4ac = (-1)^2 - 4*(1)*(-2) = ????
OpenStudy (hdrager):
7
OpenStudy (hdrager):
so x = 4 and 3
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
(-1)^2 = 1
4*(1)*(-2) = -8
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\[\Large x = \frac{-b\pm\sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}\]
\[\Large x = \frac{-(-1)\pm\sqrt{(-1)^2 - 4*(1)*(-2)}}{2(1)}\]
\[\Large x = \frac{1\pm\sqrt{9}}{2}\]
I'll let you finish
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
`so x= 1 and 2`
one of those is correct
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OpenStudy (hdrager):
2
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
\[\Large x = \frac{1\pm\sqrt{9}}{2}\]
\[\Large x = \frac{1\pm 3}{2}\]
\[\Large x = \frac{1+3}{2} \ \ \text{ or } \ \ x = \frac{1-3}{2}\]
\[\Large x = \frac{4}{2} \ \ \text{ or } \ \ x = \frac{-2}{2}\]
\[\Large x = 2 \ \ \text{ or } \ \ x = -1\]
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
so the solutions to
\[\Large x = 3 - (x-1)^2\]
are x = 2 or x = -1
OpenStudy (hdrager):
oh i thought you meant only one of them worked after plugging t back in
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
if x = 2, then what is the value of y?
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OpenStudy (hdrager):
1
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
correct
if x = 2, then y = 1
so one point of intersection is (x,y) = (2,1)
what is the other point of intersection?
OpenStudy (hdrager):
(-1,-2)
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
correct
OpenStudy (hdrager):
oh my gosh thank you so much
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OpenStudy (hdrager):
sorry it took me so long to get this
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
geogebra confirms these answers
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
For some reason, geogebra changed \(\Large x = 3-y^2\) into \(\Large y^2+x = 3\)