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OpenStudy (pflori1234_pop):

HELP!

OpenStudy (pflori1234_pop):

OpenStudy (pflori1234_pop):

@jim_thompson5910

OpenStudy (pflori1234_pop):

Consider \[f(x)=x^2 +3x-70 \]

OpenStudy (pflori1234_pop):

and \[g(x)=4(x-3)\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

plug x = 3 into f(x). What is the value of f(3) ?

OpenStudy (pflori1234_pop):

wouldn't 3^2 +3(3) -70

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes

OpenStudy (pflori1234_pop):

-52?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes

OpenStudy (pflori1234_pop):

ok and no idk what to do next

OpenStudy (pflori1234_pop):

something with multiply g of x with f of x

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

\[\Large g({\color{red}{f(3)}})=g({\color{red}{-52}}) = ???\]

OpenStudy (pflori1234_pop):

-220

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

correct

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so that wraps up part B

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

part C is similar, just you work with g(x) first then move onto f(x)

OpenStudy (pflori1234_pop):

i got 270

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

270 is correct for part C

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

for part D, you would use the idea that \[\Large (f \circ g)(x) = f(g(x))\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

So that means \[\Large (g \circ f)(-2) = g(f(-2))\]

OpenStudy (pflori1234_pop):

-300?

OpenStudy (pflori1234_pop):

ok now number 2 is so hard idk where to start i really need help

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

\(\LARGE (g \circ f)(-2) = -300\) is correct

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

`ok now number 2 is so hard idk where to start i really need help` go ahead and post it

OpenStudy (pflori1234_pop):

i did

OpenStudy (pflori1234_pop):

oh nvm ill do it now

OpenStudy (pflori1234_pop):

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

\[\Large (f \circ g)(x) = f(g(x))\] using that idea, are you able to figure out what (f o g)(x) is equal to?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

\[\Large f(x) = 3x\] \[\Large f(x) = 3*(x)\] \[\Large f({\color{red}{x}}) = 3*({\color{red}{x}})\] \[\Large f({\color{red}{g(x)}}) = 3*({\color{red}{g(x)}}) \ ... \ \text{See Note 1}\] \[\Large f({\color{red}{g(x)}}) = 3*({\color{red}{x^2+1}}) \ ... \ \text{See Note 2}\] \[\Large f(g(x)) = ???\] Note1: I replaced every copy of 'x' with 'g(x)' so the left side would have f(g(x)) Note2: On the right side, I replaced g(x) with x^2+1. This is because g(x) = x^2+1. In other words, the two expressions are equivalent or the same. Which is why this substitution is valid.

OpenStudy (pflori1234_pop):

i got 9x^3 + 2

OpenStudy (pflori1234_pop):

@jim_thompson5910

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

for f(g(x)) ?

OpenStudy (pflori1234_pop):

no for the whole thing

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Tell me what you got for f(g(x))

OpenStudy (pflori1234_pop):

3x^2 +1

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you didn't distribute properly

OpenStudy (pflori1234_pop):

oh now I'm confused

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

3*(x^2+1) = ???

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

look back at my steps above to see how I got to 3*(x^2+1)

OpenStudy (pflori1234_pop):

oh so 3x^2 +3

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

now what is g(f(x)) equal to?

OpenStudy (pflori1234_pop):

3x+1?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

\[\Large g(x) = x^2+1\] \[\Large g(x) = (x)^2+1\] \[\Large g({\color{red}{x}}) = ({\color{red}{x}})^2+1\] \[\Large g({\color{red}{f(x)}}) = ({\color{red}{f(x)}})^2+1\] \[\Large g({\color{red}{f(x)}}) = ({\color{red}{3x}})^2+1\] I'll let you simplify

OpenStudy (pflori1234_pop):

9x^2 +1

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yep, so we have \[\Large f(g(x)) = (f \circ g)(x) = 3x^2+3\] \[\Large g(f(x)) = (g \circ f)(x) = 9x^2+1\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

use that to compute \[\Large (g \circ f)(x) - (f \circ g)(x)\]

OpenStudy (pflori1234_pop):

-6x^2 +2

OpenStudy (pflori1234_pop):

ok i have a couple more...

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

-6x^2 +2 is close but not correct

OpenStudy (pflori1234_pop):

what did i do wrong

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

\[\Large (g \circ f)(x) - (f \circ g)(x)\] \[\Large 9x^2+1-(3x^2+3)\] \[\Large 9x^2+1-3x^2-3\] \[\Large 6x^2-2\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you subtracted in the wrong order

OpenStudy (pflori1234_pop):

oh

OpenStudy (pflori1234_pop):

can u help me with these?

OpenStudy (pflori1234_pop):

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Show me what you have so far

OpenStudy (pflori1234_pop):

ok i already did number3... for number 4 i got x^2 +14x+48

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

number 4 has two parts

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

`for number 4 i got x^2 +14x+48` was this for part A? or part B?

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