Help please Solve the system of equation by elimination and substitution
-66x-5y=-24
11x+4y=-21
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OpenStudy (jclark):
What do you already know to do?
OpenStudy (sterling234):
I did the problem i just ended up with a fraction so i don't know if its right
OpenStudy (jclark):
fractions can do that. Show me a few of your steps
OpenStudy (triciaal):
the objective of this method is to make the coefficient of one variable equal and opposite so when the equations are added that variable is eliminated. you are left with a linear equation. solve for that variable then use the value in either of the expressions to solve for the eliminated variable. It is a very good practice to check your solution in either of the originals
OpenStudy (sterling234):
This is what i did
-66x-5y=-24
11x+4y=-21 i multiplied the second equation by 6 to cancel out x
so it would look like -5y=-24
24y=-126
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OpenStudy (jclark):
yep
OpenStudy (sterling234):
then i got -19=-150/-19
OpenStudy (sterling234):
y*
OpenStudy (triciaal):
when you solve a system of equations it means you are finding the (x,y) that will satisfy both equations at the same time
OpenStudy (jclark):
24v + -5y = 19y
so y = -150/19
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OpenStudy (jclark):
it's ugly, but the math is correct
OpenStudy (sterling234):
i know i have to find the value of (x,y) that will work in both equations
OpenStudy (sterling234):
I was just working on graphing this and i didnt get the same answer thats my main problem
OpenStudy (jclark):
What have you tried to eliminate y?
OpenStudy (triciaal):
when you solve a system of equations it means you are finding the (x,y) that will satisfy both equations at the same time
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OpenStudy (sterling234):
i tell you the solution i got
OpenStudy (jclark):
I would not recommend trying to find a solution by graphing...! Your first approach was fine, you did the calculations right. It's just an awkward answer
OpenStudy (jclark):
go ahead
OpenStudy (sterling234):
y=-150/19 x= 201/209
OpenStudy (sterling234):
and its a project so i sorta have to do it :/
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OpenStudy (jclark):
oof. Use really big graph paper...
OpenStudy (sterling234):
But for substitution can you help me?
OpenStudy (jclark):
your solution is correct
OpenStudy (sterling234):
i have to show it in the substitution method
OpenStudy (jclark):
where do you think you should start with substitution?
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OpenStudy (sterling234):
isolate one of the variables
OpenStudy (jclark):
okay, pick one
OpenStudy (sterling234):
x
OpenStudy (jclark):
first or second equation?
OpenStudy (sterling234):
what do you recommend :/
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OpenStudy (jclark):
If nothing jumps out at you, which ever looks less complicated
OpenStudy (sterling234):
2nd
OpenStudy (jclark):
okay - so for now forget about the first equation, and simply solve for x
OpenStudy (sterling234):
y must be 0 right?
OpenStudy (jclark):
no, just get x by itself
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OpenStudy (sterling234):
i could add 5 y to -24
OpenStudy (sterling234):
i mean -21
OpenStudy (jclark):
forget about the first equation... just focus on the second
11x+4y = -21
solve for x
OpenStudy (jclark):
is that what you were doing?
OpenStudy (sterling234):
yeah but i substituted y for 0
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OpenStudy (jclark):
youre thinking about intercepts
OpenStudy (jclark):
get x by itself
OpenStudy (jclark):
you got this...
OpenStudy (sterling234):
ok 11x+4y=-21
-11 -11
x+4y=-10
OpenStudy (sterling234):
....
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OpenStudy (jclark):
right idea, wrong numbers...
OpenStudy (sterling234):
so 4?
OpenStudy (jclark):
you are indeed subtracting soemthing from both sides, but not 11x
OpenStudy (jclark):
just 4?
OpenStudy (sterling234):
4y
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OpenStudy (jclark):
bingo
OpenStudy (jclark):
so now you have 11x = -21 - 4y
OpenStudy (sterling234):
so 11x+4y=-21
-4y -4y
11x= -21- 4y
OpenStudy (sterling234):
Now i remember lol
OpenStudy (jclark):
correct. what's next?
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OpenStudy (jclark):
:)
OpenStudy (sterling234):
substitute that into the other equation
OpenStudy (jclark):
almost. one more step to solve for x first
OpenStudy (jclark):
it isn't quite by itself yet...
OpenStudy (sterling234):
how would i get rid of y?
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OpenStudy (jclark):
you have 11x = -21-4y. You want "x = blah blah blah" What needs to be done so there is no "11"?
OpenStudy (sterling234):
oh so y can remain so i can subtract 11 from -21 making it x=-31+4y
OpenStudy (jclark):
closer still... you can only subtract 11 if it's being added. It is not. It is being multiplied to x. So to undo that you must_______ by 11
OpenStudy (sterling234):
add
OpenStudy (sterling234):
sorry
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OpenStudy (jclark):
no worries
OpenStudy (sterling234):
so now substitute?
OpenStudy (sterling234):
-66(-10+4y)-5y=-24 ?
OpenStudy (jclark):
you are so close. You have the substitution correct
OpenStudy (jclark):
You're just missing one thing on your solution for x
Here's a simpler example:
2x + y = 5
2x = 5 - y
x = (5-y) /2
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OpenStudy (sterling234):
...
OpenStudy (sterling234):
So what exactly did i do wrong
OpenStudy (jclark):
11x = -21-4y
divide both sides by 11
OpenStudy (jclark):
x = (-12-4y)/11
OpenStudy (jclark):
er... -21
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OpenStudy (sterling234):
So adding could'nt be effective?
OpenStudy (jclark):
no, because we aren't adding or subtracting 11 and x. we are multiplying 11 by x. So the only way to eliminate the 11 is to divide it
OpenStudy (sterling234):
Ok I'll revise the equation
OpenStudy (jclark):
yea, your substitution was spot on except for the dividing by 11 part
OpenStudy (sterling234):
-66(-12-4y/11)-5y=-24
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OpenStudy (jclark):
correct. and yuck. what a mess.
OpenStudy (sterling234):
I know right
OpenStudy (sterling234):
Now distribute -66 right
OpenStudy (jclark):
yes...
OpenStudy (jclark):
let me see what you have after that, I want to give you some advice, but I don't want to interupt your train of thought. you're doing great
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OpenStudy (sterling234):
792+264y/11-5y=-24
OpenStudy (sterling234):
do i distribute 11 too?
OpenStudy (jclark):
no, because it isn't outside any parenthesis
OpenStudy (sterling234):
Oh ok
OpenStudy (sterling234):
just checking if i was correct
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OpenStudy (jclark):
however, this is wehre the advice comes in. It would be much easier to deal with this if it werent for that fraction
OpenStudy (sterling234):
so would we multiply now to get rid of it
OpenStudy (jclark):
yes!
OpenStudy (jclark):
becareful about how you do it tho
OpenStudy (jclark):
\[\frac{ 792+ 264y}{ 11 } -5y=-24\]
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