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OpenStudy (herpderp):

More Algebra

OpenStudy (herpderp):

OpenStudy (herpderp):

No clue how this one works

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

how you solve a system of equations with 3 unknowed terms x,y and z ?

OpenStudy (herpderp):

Substitution or elimination?

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

exactly - nice so but here in this case bc. there are a,b and c again in plus so i think will be more ussefuilly using substitution method ok. ?

OpenStudy (herpderp):

alright

OpenStudy (jango_in_dtown):

do you know row echelon form? @HerpDerp

OpenStudy (herpderp):

My teacher didn't want to teach us ._.

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

x +y +z = 2 => x = 2 -y - z so this result of x you substitute inside second and 3rd ax +by +cz = 10 equation in place of x - like a first step x -2y +z = 4

OpenStudy (jango_in_dtown):

wait, this question is not about solving, its about finding the cases when the system has no solution, unique solution of infinitely many solutions

OpenStudy (herpderp):

mhm

OpenStudy (herpderp):

2a - ay - az + by + cz = 10 -3y=2, so y = \[\frac{ -2 }{ 3 }\]

OpenStudy (herpderp):

So what's next O_O @jhonyy9

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

ok i understand it but first of all you need to solve this system to get the roots in function of a,b and c

OpenStudy (herpderp):

There are answers in the back of the book, and it says to use elimination for e1 and e2, but I don't know how that works

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

look please subtract from the first equation the 3rd and will get x +y +z = 2 x -2y +z = 4 -------------- 0 3y 0 = -2 3y = -2 y = -2/3 yes ?

OpenStudy (herpderp):

yeah i have that

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

I would say that augemented matrix is the easiest way, but you probably havent get to linear algebra yet

OpenStudy (herpderp):

We can't use matrices on this question unfortunately :\

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

so now rewrite this system using this value of y x -2/3 +z = 2 ax -2b/3 +cz = 10 x +4/3 +z = 4 do you can continue it now ?

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

x +z = 2+2/3 ax +cz = 10 +2b/3

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

using this value of z you can calculi the value of x x +z = 2 + 2/3 x + [10 + (2b-8)/a] / (c-a) = 2 + 2/3 x = (2+ 2/3) - [10 + (2b-8)/a] / (c-a)

OpenStudy (herpderp):

So i multiplied by -a, and I get -ax - az = -8/3a So then I add (eliminate) to get -az +cz = 10 + 2/3b - 8a/3 , which is different from your answer

OpenStudy (herpderp):

Ahhh I'm still really confused, sorry. I don't know how I can get a no solution with this.

OpenStudy (herpderp):

why is it 2b/a

OpenStudy (kevin):

Have you tried to find "y" value?

OpenStudy (herpderp):

y is -2/3

OpenStudy (kevin):

Have you tried to find x and z ?

OpenStudy (herpderp):

uhhhh, sort of?

OpenStudy (kevin):

after you find "y", you can find x and z by plug "y" value to the original equation. Then use elimination to find x and z value

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

yes sorry this was my mistake there 2b/3 is correct

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

@Kevin exactly this was my above wrote way too

OpenStudy (herpderp):

i get stuck with z = [10 + 2/3b - 8/3a] / (c-a) and x = 8/3 - [10 + 2/3b - 8/3a] / (c-a)

OpenStudy (herpderp):

But i dont know what to do form ther

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

now in function of a ,b and c you see that this system how many roots can have

OpenStudy (kevin):

@HerpDerp. That's exactly, This equation has infinitely solutions, because you can plug all kind of value for a or b or c to get 10

OpenStudy (kevin):

This question just same with your last question on http://openstudy.com/study#/updates/57d4cb46e4b0a5e834187332 Your first equation just like your third equation I mean, it can be written as x + z = 8/3 So you just have 2 equations : x + z = 8/ 3 and ax + by + cz = 10 Since there are more variables than equations, It can be have infinite solutions or zero solutions

OpenStudy (herpderp):

The problem is asking something different

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