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OpenStudy (itz_sid):

HELP NEEDED PLS.

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

\[\int\limits \frac{ t^5}{ \sqrt{t^2+7} } dt\]

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

what will be the first step ?

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

well this is what i did... \[u = t^2 , du = 2tdt\] \[\frac{ 1 }{ 2 } \int\limits \frac{ u^2 }{ \sqrt{u+7} }\] and now i am stuck again.

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

ok, but than you rationalize the denominator not will be more usefully like a first step ?

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

rationalize the denominator? How so?

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

@TheSmartOne

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

eliminate the radical from denominator

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

So multiply the numerator and denominator by \[\sqrt{t^2+7}\] ?

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

yes exactly

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

hi TSO my friend

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

TSO how you think please this was one bad idea to rationalize the denominator ?

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

i think this was one simplified step - or not ?

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

in the next step rewrite the radical in exponential form

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Okay...\[\frac{ t^5(t^2+7)^{1/2} }{ t^2+7 }\]

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

and then what? :/

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

TSO any idea please ? i ve learned this past 30 years

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

ago

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

@agent0smith

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Try \( \large u = t^2 + 7 \)

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

I tired that too, but then it got messy. I got...\[u = t^2+7 \rightarrow t = \sqrt{u-7} \rightarrow du=2tdt\] \[\frac{ 1 }{ 2 } \int\limits \frac{ \sqrt{u-7}^4 }{ \sqrt{u} }\]

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Simplify and expand...

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

You can also do a trig sub.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

It's not hard from here\[\large \frac{ 1 }{ 2 } \int\limits\limits \frac{(u-7)^2 }{ \sqrt{u} } du= \]

OpenStudy (sshayer):

put \[\sqrt{t^2+7}=x\] \[t^2=x^2-7,2t~dt=2x~dx,tdt=xdx\] \[I=\int\limits \frac{ t^5~dt }{ \sqrt{t^2+7} }=\int\limits \frac{ \left( t^2 \right)^2 tdt }{ \sqrt{t^2+7} }=\int\limits \frac{ \left( x^2-7 \right)^2 }{ x } x~dx\] can you complete further?

OpenStudy (sshayer):

\[= \int\limits \left( x^4-14x^2+49 \right)dx\]

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

I am trying it @agent0smith 's way. But would you then factor out the numerator, and then turn the denominator into a negative exponent, then distribute the denominator?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Simplify what i gave as far as possible

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

okay, so i got\[\frac{ 1 }{ 2 } \int\limits u^{5/2}-14u^{3/2}+49u^{1/2}\]

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Are you sure? \[\large \frac{ 1 }{ 2 } \int\limits\limits\limits \frac{(u-7)^2 }{ \sqrt{u} } du= \frac{ 1 }{ 2 } \int\limits\limits\limits \frac{u^2-14u +49 }{ \sqrt{u} } du=\] \[\large \frac{ 1 }{ 2 } \int\limits\limits \frac{u^2 }{ \sqrt{u} }- \frac{ 14 u }{ \sqrt u } +\frac{ 49 }{\sqrt u } du=\]

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Oh oops. forgot to make the exponent negative.

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Kay, so i got... \[\frac{ 1 }{ 2 }\left[ \frac{ 2 }{ 5 } u^{5/2}+\frac{ 28 }{ 3 }u^{3/2}+98u^{1/2}\right]\]

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

after integrating

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

I got the answer! Thank you very much!

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