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OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Help Please!

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

I dont know what to do from here.... How would I know if this was Convergent or Divergent? Can someone explain it to me in an elementary way xD I have a midterm on this tomorrow. D:

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

@agent0smith @mathmate

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

@johnweldon1993

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

You could use l'hopitals rule to show it, but \(\Large \lim_{x \rightarrow -\infty} x e^x = 0\) because the e^x approaches zero much faster than x grows.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

So all of the \(\large e^{a/3}\) terms will be zero and it'll converge. You seem to have made some mistakes with negative signs, btw.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Your value is correct but it should be positive, since the mistakes with negatives and addition, in your 2nd last line. http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integral+from+-infty+to+6+of+re%5E(r%2F3)

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

@agent0smith Doesnt the graph of \[e^x\] approach infinity? Why would it approach 0? Because the graph of e^x looks like this...|dw:1474242825518:dw|

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Look closer:\[\Huge \lim_{x \rightarrow -\infty} x e^x = 0\]

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Oh negative x

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

I see. Hm

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

So you really need to know the graphs to solve these problems huh?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

No, but it helps... I didn't use it at all. I used the fact that exponentials (like e^x) grow or shrink much faster than linear functions. But a graph might help see that.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

You could use l'hopitals rule to find the limit algebraically.

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Oh I see. Would ln or Log graphs grow/shrink faster than normal linear functions as well?

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

l'hospitals how? :3

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

would you bring the r down by making the exponent negative?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

In order of growth: logarithms (eg. in x*ln(x) the x dominates the ln(x)) linear/polynomials exponential\[\large \lim_{x \rightarrow -\infty} x e^x = \lim_{x \rightarrow -\infty} \frac{ x }{e^{-x} }\]notice it's currently of the form \( -\infty/\infty \) so apply l'hopitals rule\[\large \lim_{x \rightarrow -\infty} \frac{ x }{e^{-x} }= \lim_{x \rightarrow -\infty} \frac{ 1 }{-e^{-x} }=\frac{ 1 }{ -e^\infty } = 0\]

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Oh I see. So exponentials dominate linear while linear dominates logarithms and if the answer is infinity then it is diverging, if the answer is zero, the it is converging, right?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Yes and yes.

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

What if my answer is not zero? Like for this problem, I got 2. Is that neither Converging or Diverging then?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

An integral converging means it approaches an actual value. Zero is just one of those values.

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Oh so it for the problem i got 2, is also converging

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

right? :D

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

If you get a value, yes it converges.

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Oh okay. Thanks!

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