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OpenStudy (cheuk):

Questions about vector i will attach the questions

OpenStudy (cheuk):

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Hint: \[\Large \begin{bmatrix}4 & -6 & -8\end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix}x & y & z\end{bmatrix}^{T} = 0\] \[\Large \begin{bmatrix}4 & -6 & -8\end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix}x\\ y\\ z\end{bmatrix} = 0\] \[\Large 4x-6y-8z = 0\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Another hint: isolate x in the first equation \[\Large x+2y-3z = 0\] \[\Large x+2y-3z-2y = 0-2y\] \[\Large x-3z = -2y\] \[\Large x-3z+3z = -2y+3z\] \[\Large x = -2y+3z\]

OpenStudy (cheuk):

Still have no idea howcto do this

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

So we have these two equations: x = -2y+3z 4x-6y-8z = 0

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Focus on the second equation. Replace x with -2y+3z 4x-6y-8z = 0 4(-2y+3z)-6y-8z = 0 -8y+12z-6y-8z = 0 -14y+4z = 0 Agreed so far?

OpenStudy (cheuk):

Ok, just want to ask are the two vectors u just mentioned orthogonal to the plane?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

I haven't mentioned any vectors yet. Those are equations.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

What do you get when you isolate z in -14y+4z = 0 ?

OpenStudy (cheuk):

No x direction?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

no x will go away after you plug in x = -2y+3z

OpenStudy (cheuk):

I don't know

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

solve for z \[\Large -14y+4z = 0\] \[\Large -14y+4z+14y = 0+14y\] \[\Large 4z = 14y\] \[\Large \frac{4z}{4} = \frac{14y}{4}\] \[\Large z = \frac{7y}{2}\] Does this make sense?

OpenStudy (cheuk):

Yes

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so we will plug that into x = -2y+3z

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

\[\Large x = -2y+3z\] \[\Large x = -2y+3\left(\frac{7y}{2}\right)\] \[\Large x = -2y+\frac{3*7y}{2}\] \[\Large x = -2y+\frac{21y}{2}\] \[\Large x = \frac{-4y}{2}+\frac{21y}{2}\] \[\Large x = \frac{-4y+21y}{2}\] \[\Large x = \frac{17y}{2}\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

making sense?

OpenStudy (cheuk):

Yes

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

To summarize, we have x = 17y/2 and z = 7y/2 if y = k, then we'd have this vector \[\Large \begin{bmatrix}x & y & z\end{bmatrix}^{T} = \begin{bmatrix}\frac{17k}{2} & k & \frac{7k}{2}\end{bmatrix}^{T}\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Another way to write it using different notation would be \[\Large \left<x,y,z\right> = \left<\frac{17k}{2},k,\frac{7k}{2}\right> \]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

k is any real number

OpenStudy (cheuk):

But that's the answer? I dont understand why is it orthogonal to(4,-6,-8)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Pick any number you want for k. Let's say you pick k = 2 That would mean \[\Large \left<\frac{17k}{2},k,\frac{7k}{2}\right>=\left<\frac{17*2}{2},2,\frac{7*2}{2}\right>=\left<17,2,7\right> \] Do you agree?

OpenStudy (cheuk):

Ok

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

now just dot product that vector with the given vector. Tell me what you get

OpenStudy (cheuk):

Zero

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so that tells us <17,2,7> and <4,-6,-8> are orthogonal vectors

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

pick another value of k. Plug it into \[\Large \left<\frac{17k}{2},k,\frac{7k}{2}\right>\] and then dot product that with <4,-6,-8>. Whatever you pick for k, the dot product result should be 0.

OpenStudy (cheuk):

But when i substitute (4,-6,-8) into x+2y-3z, it is also equal to zero. Is that means these two vectors are orthogonal too?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

`when i substitute (4,-6,-8) into x+2y-3z, it is also equal to zero` you made an error somewhere

OpenStudy (cheuk):

Sorry typo, i mean substitute(17,2,7)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes any vector that is in the plane will dot product with <4,-6,-8> to get 0

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

that's essentially what \[\Large \begin{bmatrix}4 & -6 & -8\end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix}x & y & z\end{bmatrix}^{T} = 0\] means

OpenStudy (cheuk):

But (17,2,7) should be on the plane of x+2y-3z=0 , so if the dot product of (17,2,7)and(1,2,-3) is zero, that means they are orthogonal?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

<1,2,-3> is the normal vector of the plane x+2y-3z=0 if <x,y,z> is some vector and <x,y,z> dot product with <1,2,-3> = 0, then the vector <x,y,z> will be in the plane

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

https://services.math.duke.edu/education/ccp/materials/mvcalc/linesplanes/3dPlane1.gif in that image, the blue vector is the normal vector the red vectors are all in the plane. Pick any red vector and dot product it with the blue vector. You will get 0 as the result

OpenStudy (cheuk):

Thxxxxxxxxx i got it!

OpenStudy (cheuk):

btw I want to know can I express the answer using x as a free variable?

OpenStudy (cheuk):

and please help me deal with the second question!!!

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