Check all the boxes that correspond to froces that do zero work
Gravity on a plane flying horizontally Thrust on a plane flying horizontally Air resitance acting on a snowmobile Tension from a cable on a traffic light at rest You push a stalled car, but it doesn't budge Friction acting on a softball player slilding into second base
@IrishBoy123
@agent0smith
let's start with a crude definition of Work.....Work = Force x Distance So when a Force acts over a distance, it has done work in that direction So, for the first one, is gravity doing work on a plane that is flying horizontally??
Yes. I think I know the ones that do zero work. I think its the first one, the one about the cable on the traffic light, or and pushing a stalled car
i know where you are coming from on all of your answers. intuitively they are spotty-dog. but i'm just wondering this. and let's take air resistance on a snowmobile. is the snowmobile doing work on the air ( i say yes), or is the air doing work on the snowmobile (i say yes too, because i reckon negative work is still work......but maybe that is wrong??) simple graphic that is everywhere in terms of the definition |dw:1475005537729:dw| if this matters to you, i'd get a second opinion from others @agent0smith @ljetibo @osprey
did you finish this @Unofficialllyy ?!?!
yes, the ones i chose were correct. :)
are you stuffing them in a website?
Air resistance still does work, just negative work.
indeed sir I totally agree that negative work is fine because [but how do you explain this rationally??] it's mostly about balancing equations.
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I'm not sure what do you mean how do you explain this rationally? In general work is a funny thing, not really all that applicable. You can think of it as if you've a coordinate system centered on an air molecule, the snowmobile hits it and pushes it around for a short bit the molecule experiences a force of equal magnitude but opposite direction as the snowmobile. This is guaranteed by Newtons third law. Thus the work F*s becomes -F*s? Is this what you're asking?
I mean the common description.....a force acting in a direction
that's how the brainwashing begins. the idea that work can be negative is not on the menu
but yes, that is exactly what i mean negative work. which is just a balancing factor in various equations
i'm talking to myself right?!?!? LOL!!
The force has to be parallel to displacement to do work, but opposing direction is still parallel.
Negative work done by a force could also eventually turn into positive work done (once the object stops and turns around).
Why wouldn't work be negative? Mathematically it can be because to calculate work you have to take force F and the path s as vectors and do an integral of their dot product. To do that you have to pick some king of a coordinate system to do it in. The sign + or - is just a remnant of that choice of the coordinate system in this aspect. Having negative work is often beneficial in TDM i.e. where negative work basically means the work the system is doing and we're not investing into it. I've heated a pot by doing some work and then placed it on ice, that system has lost heat by melting the ice - therefore doing some work. It's all cool there, but in classical and electrodinamics works is so-so of a quantity.
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