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OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Find the exact length of the curve.

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

\[x = \frac{ y^4 }{ 8 } - \frac{ 1 }{ 4y^2 }\] [1,2]

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Here is what I have so far. \[x ^{'} = \frac{ y^3 }{ 2 }-\frac{ 1 }{ 2y^3 }\] \[\int\limits_{1}^{2} \sqrt{1+(\frac{ y^6 }{ 4 }-\frac{ 1 }{ 2 }-\frac{ 1 }{ 4y^6 })}\] \[\int\limits_{1}^{2} \sqrt{1+(\frac{ y^3 }{ 2 }-\frac{ 1 }{ 2y^3 })^2}\] \[\int\limits_{1}^{2}\sqrt{\frac{ y^6 }{ 4 }+\frac{ 1 }{ 2 }-\frac{ 1 }{ 4y^6 }}\]

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

But Idk what to do from there.

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Could I factor the inside? My professor did something similar to that. And canceled the square root that way.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Yes, notice when you had the -1/2 in the middle, it was a perfect square. So with the +1/2 in the middle, it's probably some other perfect square.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Not seeing it yet? :o

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Not really. Its harder to do with fractions :(

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Your derivative is wrong... missed a sign

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Oh true :U

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

\[x ^{'}=\frac{ 4y^{4-1} }{ 8 } + \frac{ -2y^{-2-1} }{ 4 } = \frac{ y^3 }{ 2 } - \frac{ y^{-3} }{ 2 }\]

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

I guess maybe you posted the original problem incorrectly. It shows subtraction in the middle, not addition. I'm not sure which one is correct.

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Oh... Yea I did post the original incorrectly. I apologize..... -sigh-

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Ah good :) Otherwise this problem doesn't work out very nicely lol

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

But I am stuck on how to factor this bad boi.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\large\rm \left(\frac{y^3}{2}-\frac{1}{2y^3}\right)^2=\frac{y^6}{4}\color{orangered}{-\frac12}+\frac{1}{4y^6}\]

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Ok fine I'll just ruin the fun for you then :P\[\large\rm \left(\frac{y^3}{2}+\frac{1}{2y^3}\right)^2=\frac{y^6}{4}\color{orangered}{+\frac12}+\frac{1}{4y^6}\]

satellite73 (satellite73):

think of all the work that they put in to making a question you can actually answer (i.e \(1+f'^2\) is a perfect square ) i tried it once, it is not that easy

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Ya it's kinda funny how perfectly chosen these functions are :D lol

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

ikr... i've always thought "how the hell else would you integrate this, were it not so damned convenient"

satellite73 (satellite73):

@myininaya (who i dearly miss) showed me once how to do it with polynomials

OpenStudy (seratul):

whom*

zepdrix (zepdrix):

oooo snap

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

LOL

zepdrix (zepdrix):

you just got got son

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

LOL @zepdrix

zepdrix (zepdrix):

XD

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Also major LOL to @Seratul

zepdrix (zepdrix):

That's a minor faux pas... It really triggers me though when people use the wrong your/you're XD lol Like someone will be like "your welcome!" and I'm thinking in my head.. "my welcome..?"

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Maybe they were complimenting your welcome mat at your front door, and were just so blown away by its magnificence, that they got stunned into silence, mid-sentence.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

lol :D

OpenStudy (seratul):

Hm, I think it might be who. Oh well.

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

@Seratul LMAO

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

@zepdrix @agent0smith Oh I got what you had, its just I forgot to make the it \[+\frac{ 1 }{ 4y^6 }\] If you look at my work. So I didnt think it was correct. Thanks for you're help.

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

@zepdrix Your the best! :)

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

LOL Imagine if someone was talking one of their parents "My mother, who I dearly miss..." "*whom" - seratul

OpenStudy (seratul):

All this SAT practice has me confused now. Sorry @satellite73 lmao.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Awesome thread :D

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

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zepdrix (zepdrix):

my the best? -_- oh boy he triggered me .. i see what he did there..

OpenStudy (marcelie):

lmao x'd

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

@zepdrix Hehe.

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

I have a problem tho. I got the wrong answer...

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

So... \[\int\limits_{1}^{2}\frac{ y^3 }{ 2 }+\frac{ 1 }{ 2y^3 } = \left[ 2y^4-\frac{ 1 }{ y^2 } \right]_{1}^{2} = \left[ (32 - \frac{ 1 }{ 3 } ) -(2-1) \right] = \frac{ 123 }{ 4 }\]

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Thats what I got after the cancellation.

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

oops, i meant 1/4.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

I made a mistake somewhere as well... let's see if we can figure this out.

OpenStudy (johnweldon1993):

I just want to say...big fan of this thread! Lol

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

My threads are always fun. 8)

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

I take full credit.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

lol, you were offline for most of the fun XD pshhh \[\large\rm \int\limits\limits_{1}^{2}\frac12y^3+\frac12y^{-3}dy\]So power rule on each term,\[\large\rm \frac18y^4-\frac14y^{-2}|_1^2\]Oh ok ok ok I see what I did wrong on paper.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Ya I think your coefficients are messed up.

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Power rule? Are you taking the derivative while integrating?? Tsk Tsk

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Wait.... Im lost

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Power rule for integration :o

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

LMAO im stupid.

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Wait but why did it go to the denominator?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

I should call it something else :P That seems to confuse people a lot

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Umm

OpenStudy (johnweldon1993):

Wanna make that correction...?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\large\rm \int\limits y^n~dy=\frac{1}{n+1}y^{n+1}\]You're asking why this new exponent goes to the denominator?

OpenStudy (johnweldon1993):

There we go ^_^

zepdrix (zepdrix):

That johnny -_- always sassin' me

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

OH RIGHT. Gooooood. I am the one who ended up mixing it up with Deriving...

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Ohh I see, ya you bought the 4 down into the numerator.

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

I got it now. Arigato Sensei.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

noiceee

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Thank you for you're time. <3

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Wow cloud9 is gettin rekt right now!!

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

cloud9? League of legends?

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