Find the exact length of the curve.
\[x = \frac{ y^4 }{ 8 } - \frac{ 1 }{ 4y^2 }\] [1,2]
Here is what I have so far. \[x ^{'} = \frac{ y^3 }{ 2 }-\frac{ 1 }{ 2y^3 }\] \[\int\limits_{1}^{2} \sqrt{1+(\frac{ y^6 }{ 4 }-\frac{ 1 }{ 2 }-\frac{ 1 }{ 4y^6 })}\] \[\int\limits_{1}^{2} \sqrt{1+(\frac{ y^3 }{ 2 }-\frac{ 1 }{ 2y^3 })^2}\] \[\int\limits_{1}^{2}\sqrt{\frac{ y^6 }{ 4 }+\frac{ 1 }{ 2 }-\frac{ 1 }{ 4y^6 }}\]
But Idk what to do from there.
Could I factor the inside? My professor did something similar to that. And canceled the square root that way.
Yes, notice when you had the -1/2 in the middle, it was a perfect square. So with the +1/2 in the middle, it's probably some other perfect square.
Not seeing it yet? :o
Not really. Its harder to do with fractions :(
Your derivative is wrong... missed a sign
Oh true :U
\[x ^{'}=\frac{ 4y^{4-1} }{ 8 } + \frac{ -2y^{-2-1} }{ 4 } = \frac{ y^3 }{ 2 } - \frac{ y^{-3} }{ 2 }\]
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I guess maybe you posted the original problem incorrectly. It shows subtraction in the middle, not addition. I'm not sure which one is correct.
Oh... Yea I did post the original incorrectly. I apologize..... -sigh-
Ah good :) Otherwise this problem doesn't work out very nicely lol
But I am stuck on how to factor this bad boi.
\[\large\rm \left(\frac{y^3}{2}-\frac{1}{2y^3}\right)^2=\frac{y^6}{4}\color{orangered}{-\frac12}+\frac{1}{4y^6}\]
Ok fine I'll just ruin the fun for you then :P\[\large\rm \left(\frac{y^3}{2}+\frac{1}{2y^3}\right)^2=\frac{y^6}{4}\color{orangered}{+\frac12}+\frac{1}{4y^6}\]
think of all the work that they put in to making a question you can actually answer (i.e \(1+f'^2\) is a perfect square ) i tried it once, it is not that easy
Ya it's kinda funny how perfectly chosen these functions are :D lol
ikr... i've always thought "how the hell else would you integrate this, were it not so damned convenient"
@myininaya (who i dearly miss) showed me once how to do it with polynomials
whom*
oooo snap
LOL
you just got got son
LOL @zepdrix
XD
Also major LOL to @Seratul
That's a minor faux pas... It really triggers me though when people use the wrong your/you're XD lol Like someone will be like "your welcome!" and I'm thinking in my head.. "my welcome..?"
Maybe they were complimenting your welcome mat at your front door, and were just so blown away by its magnificence, that they got stunned into silence, mid-sentence.
lol :D
Hm, I think it might be who. Oh well.
@Seratul LMAO
@zepdrix @agent0smith Oh I got what you had, its just I forgot to make the it \[+\frac{ 1 }{ 4y^6 }\] If you look at my work. So I didnt think it was correct. Thanks for you're help.
@zepdrix Your the best! :)
LOL Imagine if someone was talking one of their parents "My mother, who I dearly miss..." "*whom" - seratul
All this SAT practice has me confused now. Sorry @satellite73 lmao.
Awesome thread :D
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my the best? -_- oh boy he triggered me .. i see what he did there..
lmao x'd
@zepdrix Hehe.
I have a problem tho. I got the wrong answer...
So... \[\int\limits_{1}^{2}\frac{ y^3 }{ 2 }+\frac{ 1 }{ 2y^3 } = \left[ 2y^4-\frac{ 1 }{ y^2 } \right]_{1}^{2} = \left[ (32 - \frac{ 1 }{ 3 } ) -(2-1) \right] = \frac{ 123 }{ 4 }\]
Thats what I got after the cancellation.
oops, i meant 1/4.
I made a mistake somewhere as well... let's see if we can figure this out.
I just want to say...big fan of this thread! Lol
My threads are always fun. 8)
I take full credit.
lol, you were offline for most of the fun XD pshhh \[\large\rm \int\limits\limits_{1}^{2}\frac12y^3+\frac12y^{-3}dy\]So power rule on each term,\[\large\rm \frac18y^4-\frac14y^{-2}|_1^2\]Oh ok ok ok I see what I did wrong on paper.
Ya I think your coefficients are messed up.
Power rule? Are you taking the derivative while integrating?? Tsk Tsk
Wait.... Im lost
Power rule for integration :o
LMAO im stupid.
Wait but why did it go to the denominator?
I should call it something else :P That seems to confuse people a lot
Umm
Wanna make that correction...?
\[\large\rm \int\limits y^n~dy=\frac{1}{n+1}y^{n+1}\]You're asking why this new exponent goes to the denominator?
There we go ^_^
That johnny -_- always sassin' me
OH RIGHT. Gooooood. I am the one who ended up mixing it up with Deriving...
Ohh I see, ya you bought the 4 down into the numerator.
I got it now. Arigato Sensei.
noiceee
Thank you for you're time. <3
Wow cloud9 is gettin rekt right now!!
cloud9? League of legends?
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