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OpenStudy (jango_in_dtown):

Need help... Topic: Complex numbers.

OpenStudy (jango_in_dtown):

*complex

OpenStudy (owen3):

(z + 2) = z - (-2)

OpenStudy (owen3):

when z = 5, does that imply you just plug in z = 5

OpenStudy (jango_in_dtown):

n=5

OpenStudy (jango_in_dtown):

sorry. I typed wrong

OpenStudy (jango_in_dtown):

OpenStudy (jango_in_dtown):

Here's the correct question

OpenStudy (owen3):

I might need a hint.

OpenStudy (jango_in_dtown):

Me too.. I am not able to find the correct direction from which this sum can be started

OpenStudy (owen3):

If i plug it into wolfram i get 5 roots http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=solve+(z%2B2)%5E5+%2B+z%5E5+%3D+0

OpenStudy (owen3):

Which tells me z = -1 is one solution which is located at (-1,0) on the complex plane

OpenStudy (jango_in_dtown):

Also see roots have the same real part, that means they all lie on a straight line

OpenStudy (jango_in_dtown):

Do you need an elegant solution? @owen3

OpenStudy (owen3):

Sure. I am not sure if the question is asking for a single answer.

OpenStudy (owen3):

yes jango, please.

OpenStudy (jango_in_dtown):

z+2=(z+1)+1 and z=(z+1)-1. so when n=5, we have {(z+1)+1}^5+{(z+1)-1}^5=0

OpenStudy (jango_in_dtown):

Let z+1=p then (p+1)^5+(p-1)^5=0 from here we need to find p, which is very easy,

OpenStudy (owen3):

$$p^5 + 5p^4 + 10p^3 + 10p^2 + 5p + 1 + \\ + p^5 - 5p^4 + 10p^3 - 10p^2 + 5p - 1 =0 $$

OpenStudy (jango_in_dtown):

no.. dont expand

OpenStudy (owen3):

oh solve as is

OpenStudy (jango_in_dtown):

{(p+1)/(p-1)}^5=-1=(cos pi+i sin pi)

OpenStudy (jango_in_dtown):

then (p+1)/(p-1)= cos ((2kpi+pi)/5)+i sin ((2kpi+pi)/5), k=0,1,2,3,4

OpenStudy (owen3):

Demoivre's theorem?

OpenStudy (jango_in_dtown):

absolutely. :)

OpenStudy (owen3):

you still have a complicated expression on the left side of equation $$ \frac{p+1}{p-1} = \cos \left( \frac{2\pi k}{5} + \frac{\pi}{5} \right) + i \sin \left( \frac{2\pi k}{5} + \frac{\pi}{5} \right) $$

OpenStudy (jango_in_dtown):

use componendo and dividendo

OpenStudy (jango_in_dtown):

what i tried to say, if you use compoenedo and dividendo, the left hand side will become p

OpenStudy (jango_in_dtown):

and in the right hand side, we will have to do something

OpenStudy (owen3):

hmm i dont see how compendendo does that , can you show me.

OpenStudy (jango_in_dtown):

sure. :)

OpenStudy (owen3):

thanks

OpenStudy (jango_in_dtown):

here comes the elegance

OpenStudy (owen3):

Question. Should that say $$ w = \frac{\pi k}{5} + \frac{\pi}{10} $$

OpenStudy (jango_in_dtown):

yeah

OpenStudy (jango_in_dtown):

use needed to make p an imaginary number..

OpenStudy (owen3):

I'm confused on the compenendo and dividendo step.

OpenStudy (jango_in_dtown):

it says that if a/b=c/d, then (a+b)/(a-b)=(c+d)/(c-d)

OpenStudy (owen3):

oh :)

OpenStudy (owen3):

Thats a remarkable simplification.

OpenStudy (owen3):

you used a trig identity 1 + cos 2w =

OpenStudy (jango_in_dtown):

right. also 1-cos 2w and used -1= i^2

OpenStudy (owen3):

1 + cos(2w) = 2 (cos w)^2

OpenStudy (jango_in_dtown):

correct

OpenStudy (owen3):

so we get $$ \rm \large z = -1 - i \cot\left( \frac{\pi }{10} + \frac{\pi k }{5} \right) , ~~k = 0,1,2,3,4$$

OpenStudy (jango_in_dtown):

correct... and the geometrical interpretation is that all the points lie on a straight line whose real part is -1.

OpenStudy (owen3):

I think i see the compenendo derivation now. $$ \rm \large { \text{given:} ~~ \frac{a}{b } = \frac c d \\ \, \\ \text{compendendo:} \\ \\ \, \\ \frac{a+b}{b} = \frac{c+d}{d} \implies \frac{a+b}{c+d}= \frac b d \\ \, \\ \text{dividendo:} \\ \\ \, \\ \frac{a-b}{b} = \frac{c-d}{d} \implies \frac{a-b}{c-d}= \frac b d \\ \, \\ \\ \, \\ \therefore \frac{a+b}{c+d} = \frac{a-b}{c-d} \\ \, \\ \\ \therefore \\ \frac{a+b}{a-b} = \frac{c+d}{c-d} } $$

OpenStudy (owen3):

Are you studying complex analysis?

OpenStudy (jango_in_dtown):

It was one of my subjects last year

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