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OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):
If the graph of the function defined on [-3,3] by f(x)=x^2+ax+b has an absolute minimum at (-1,-3), determine the value of f(1).
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OpenStudy (irishboy123):
complete the square for a quadratic....?
or calculus?
what you learning? :-)
OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):
calculus :)
OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):
i can't remember how to do tht part though lol
OpenStudy (irishboy123):
lol!!
OpenStudy (irishboy123):
small detail
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OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):
Lol yeah
OpenStudy (irishboy123):
so we can compute \(f(1)\) like now
but maybe if we figure out what \(f'\) is, it might also add info
OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):
So i would take the derivative of that equation?
OpenStudy (irishboy123):
totally!
OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):
sweet so its 2x+a
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OpenStudy (irishboy123):
and it's a min at (-1, -3)
apparently
OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):
yup
OpenStudy (irishboy123):
OK!! lol so you've got that
it's a min, which means something about the 2nd deriv, i reckon
OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):
Isn't 2nd deriv for concavity?
OpenStudy (irishboy123):
i was meandering
it goes through (3,3)
so you have your other equation too
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OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):
wait how do you know it goes through that point?
OpenStudy (eliesaab):
Solve
f'[-1]=0
and
f[-1]=3
to find a and b
replace
and find f[1]
OpenStudy (eliesaab):
Sorry
f[-1]=-3
OpenStudy (irishboy123):
\( f=x^2+ax+b \)
\(f(1) = 1 + a + b\)
\( f'=2x+a\)
\( f'(-1)=2(-1)+a = 0 \implies a = 2\)
\(\implies f=x^2+2x+b \)
\(\implies 3 =(-3)^2+2(-3)+b \)
\(\implies b = 0 \)
\(\implies f=x^2+2x+b \)
OpenStudy (eliesaab):
Who said that f(3)=3?
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OpenStudy (eliesaab):
All what we know is f(-1)=-3
OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):
oh yes
OpenStudy (irishboy123):
yes?
OpenStudy (eliesaab):
If you do what I said above you find
\[
f(x)=x^2+2 x-2\\
f(1)=1
\]
OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):
and a would equal 2.
\[f'(x)=2x+a\]
\[f'(-1)=-2+a\]
\[-2+a=0\]
\[a=2\]
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OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):
how did u find b again? sorry
OpenStudy (irishboy123):
@eliesaab is not happy yet better at math than I
i reckon we roll that way :-)
OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):
Lol no I appreciate both of your help.
OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):
nvm i got b
OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):
thank you guys!!
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OpenStudy (irishboy123):
@eliesaab
we also are told the slope :-)
OpenStudy (irishboy123):
as in the min at (-1, -3)
OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):
I got the answer, thanks! :D
OpenStudy (irishboy123):
yes @Thatonegirl_
you don't have to worry!!
good stuff
close it and forget about it