help pleaseee... how do i know its alternating series ? number 11
if you see \((-1)^n\) it is for sure
or \((-1)^{n+1}\) in your case
okay so i plugged in numbers and im aussuming its decreasing
of course it is decreasing you have a rational function where the degree of the numerator is smaller than the degree of the denominator
in some pre-calc class you might remember that such a function has a horizontal asymptote at \(y=0\) which is another way of saying the numbers get closer to zero
oh riight i remember
okay so how would i solve this problem because i know it starts like this 1. )bn \[\frac{ n^2 }{ n^3+4} >0\]
we know it alternates right?
so all you need for convergence is that the terms go to zero
hmm okay but does this require derivatives ?
you could do that if you like you could take the derivative say "hmmm it is always negative, so the function is decreasing and therefore the terms of the series are decreasing as well"
you could do a harder method, say show that \(|a_{n+1}|<|a_n|\) but that is a bunch of work
actually now that i look closer, you have to be a bit careful did you take the derivative of \(\frac{x^2}{x^3+4}\)?
oh gawd lool is there an easier way do this D:
yeah the derivative is the easy way, then i will tell you an even easier way, but your math teacher may not accept it
hmm not yet but i get confuse with these things,,, is this step necessarily ? b n+1 this is where we plugin n+1 into the original equation ?
yes
oh i mean "yes, that is \(b_{n+1}\) "but yo don't necessarily need it
just take the derivative, what do you get?
if you are stuck let me know
okay so we would use qoutient rule \[\frac{ (n^2)'(n^3+4)- (n^2)(n^3+4)' }{ (n^3+4)^2 }\]
jeez yes but it is not so bad as you wrote it
and although it doesn't matter, it should be \(x\) not \(n\) \(n) are integers 1
\[\frac{2x(x^3+4)-3x^2(x^2)}{(x^2+4)^2}\]
\[\frac{ (2n)(n^3+4)-(n^2)(3n^2)}{ (n^6+8n^3+16) } = \frac{ 2n^4+8n-3n^4 }{ n^6+8n^3+16}\]
don't bother with multiplying the denominator
ok typo there
\[\frac{-x^4+8x}{(x^3+4)^2}\]
got that ?
oh riight so in the qoutient rule we multiply the bottom at all ?
now the denomiator is always positive, because it is a square the numerator is NOT always negative, however, it is always negative if \(x>2\) which means for \(n>2\) the sequence of terms is decreasnig
yeah you do get the denominator squared, i was just saying don't square it it doesn't help your cause easier to see that the denominator is always positive if you leave it as a square
oh okay question how did you get x>2 and n >2 ?
so if you want to make your math teacher happy, say "consider \(f(x)=\frac{x^2}{x^2+4}\) whose derivative if \[f'(x)=-\frac{x(x^3-8)}{(x^3+4)^2}\] we see that for \(x>2\) we have \(f'(x)<0\) so for \(n>2\) the series is decreasing
how did i get \(x>2\)?
it should be clear that if \(x>2\) then \(x^3-8>0\) and also \(x(x^3-8)>0\) so \(-x(x^3-8)<0\)
this is really really too much work the terms are all positive they also go to zero because the numerator has degree less than the denominator if the terms go to zero and they are all positive, then they must decrease by sheer obviousness
hmm i think the 2 is confusing me D:
If the larger series converges, then yours converges as well ... (no need for that very left side in each line)
oh i think you got 2 by solving this right ? x^3-8 = 0 which is 2
yes
oh okay so then
is summery, if \(x>2\) you know \(f'(x)<0\) so if \(n>2\) the sequence of absolute values decreases to zero since the series alternates that shows convergence of the series
*summary
ohh okay now it makes sense .but every alternate series does it always converge ?
not if the terms don’t go to zero!!
\[\sum(-1)^nn\] doesn't converge
for that matter, neither does \[\sum(-1)^n\]
ohhh but do we have to find the limit for this one?
which one?
i see one in your worksheet that does not converge do you see it?
oh perhaps you are asking if you have to actually compute the sum that is very very hard if not impossible so no
oh the one we did right now do we have to find the limit like this |dw:1477534272953:dw|
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