HELP PLEASE
I need help with Number 1. :/
@518nad @mathmate @zepdrix
Would it be convergent, since the numbers are gradually getting closer and closer to zero?
Although, there is a up and down flux on the graph.
Are you familiar with geometric series?
Yes.
Can you write the first series in terms of the first term, and the general term an?
uh..... \[\sum_{10}^{\infty}a_n\]
Well, the first term is definitely 10. In a geometric series, we get the subsequent terms by multiplying by a constant, r, or the common ratio. What do we need to multiply 10 to get the next term -8? This is another way to calculate the common ratio, r.
-4/5?
exactly! r=4/5 is the common ratio. In geometric series, all we need to get started is to find 1. a=first term 2. r=common ratio. to reproduce the whole series. This can be written as Sum of the series = \(\sum_1^{\infty}a_i r^i\) and a1 is usually written as a. Ok so far?
Yessir.
Now if the sum is a finite number, the series is convergent. If the sum S is \(+\infty\) or \(-\infty\), the series is divergent. So far so good?
Yessir
Now how do we find the sum of the series? There is a magic formula which is worth knowing. Sum of series, S = a(1-r^n)/(1-r) where n is the number of terms we are summing.
Let's take an example, trying to sum 1+1/2+1/4+1/8..... Can you find a and r for this series?
a = 1 r = 1/2
My professor taught me that to find the sum we use... \[Sum = \frac{ a }{ 1-r }\]
Yes, that is correct if we sum to infinite number of terms, because r^(inf)=0, so that leaves a/(1-r). Ok, since you are familiar with that, can you find the sum for the example series to infinite number of terms?
You have already found a and r, so you can substitute in your professor's formula.
Sorry im confused... How does r^(inf)=0? doesnt that equal infniity?
If r<1, say, 0.99, then r gets progressively smaller and eventually approaches as n-> infinity. So the series converges, i.e. IF r<1. If r>1, say 1.02, then r gets progressively larger and larger, and eventually approaches infinity. In this case (r>1) the series diverges. So far so good?
Your professor has probably mentioned that WHEN r<1, then sum = 1/(1-r).
Oh okay, I get it.
So can you find the sum when a=1, and r=1/2, please?
And in this case r is less than 1 since r=1/2
yes, that's correct. (so the series converges). Therefore we can find the sum.
Yes.\[Sum = \frac{ 1 }{ 1-\frac{ 1 }{ 2 } } = 2\]
Exactly. So let's go back to the first question, which turns out to be an infinite series (i.e. we sum to infinity). We'll first find a and r then see if you can use your professor's formula. Can you find a and r for 10, -8, 6.4, -5.12, 4.096.....
So then...\[a=10, r=- \frac{ 4 }{ 5 }\] \[r=-\frac{ 4 }{ 5 }\rightarrow \left| -\frac{ 4 }{ 5 } \right|\rightarrow \frac{ 4 }{ 5 } >1\] \[Sum = \frac{ 10 }{ 1+\frac{ 4 }{ 5 } } = \frac{ 10 }{ \frac{ 9 }{ 5 } } = \frac{ 50 }{ 9 }\]? D:
Perfect! So you just answered the first question. Well done! Now can you please try the second one? It is awfully similar to the first one.
Oh I got the second one already. 1/17 But for the third one, r = -4/3, after absolute value its 4/3. But thats > 1
What does that tell you then?
That its divergent?
\[\frac{ 4 }{ 5 } <1 \]* typo
Oh oops.
Not really. There is a little trick you can do. You can adjust the first term. Thanks @Nnesha.... She told me that the common ratio should be 8/9 and not 4/3. But you still can adjust the first term so that the nth term is (8/9)
How did you get that? D:
what?? :o
Actually, you can sum the series as is and get the right answer. if we write it out, it would be 1/9, 8/81, 64/729, .... Can you find the first term a and the common ratio r?
r = 8/9
and the first term?
1/9
Good. Will it converge?
yes
And the sum is?
1/17. But i was talking about number 3
I got that a=8 and r= -4/3 for #3
Ok, I didn't even know there is a #3. We'll get to that,but you probably have the answer. The sum 1/17 is not correct for #2, you'd have to try again!
Hint: review your professor's formula!
But my homework accepted 1/17 as the answer D:
Sorry, I didn't see the negative sign before the eight. Yes, then r=-8/9, then sum is 1/17. For #3, what do you say? a, r, convergence, sum?
Well, a = 8 and r = -4/3 4/3 is not less than 1. So it is divergent?
actually, r=-4/3, and |r|>1 so it is divergent. Correct.
Actually you're more accurate, |r| not less than 1 is the right criterion.
Thanks, I think i get it now. :)
Perfect! You're welcome! If you have time, there are useful examples here: http://www.purplemath.com/modules/series5.htm
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