http://prntscr.com/d0pcw5 Any equations or concepts I should be aware of?
@kittiwitti1 Use the relationship between kinetic energy and velocity: \[\Large KE_e=\frac{ 1 }{ 2 } m_e v^2\] Here is \(m_e\) the mass of the electron.
I think you need to know (and include) the work function of Hg. \(\sf \large E_{photon}=KE_e+\phi\) \(\sf \large \dfrac{hc}{\lambda }=\dfrac{1}{2}m_ev^2+\phi\)
Oh, alright. I will try those... @aaronq Hmm, I am not sure what this symbol means in your equations... \(\large{\phi}\)?
@kittiwitti1 \(\phi\) is the photoelectric work function, which is the minimum photon energy required to liberate an electron from a substance, it is kinda analogous to a threshold frequency multiplied by the Plank constant. But since you already have the KE of the electron it should be sufficient to calculate the velocity in a Newtonian mechanical manner.
Ok. I am not sure why you are tagging me in my own post though. @Frostbite
Oh right, i didn't see that K here was kinetic energy.. my bad lol
Sorry kitti. It is a habit I have adopted as I have a similar tagging system in the research group I am working in and always specify to whom I am replying to.
That is ok if there is a legitimate reason lol. I will accept that reasoning :-D @Frostbite haha
On the topic of the question, though, I seem to still be getting the wrong answer. :-( http://prntscr.com/d1su3o
@Frostbite ?
Let me fast do a calculation :)
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Are you sure you calculated correctly? I get the velocity to approx 856335 m/s just by fast calculation
Not sure about my own number either, but yeah...
Here is my work: \[KE=\frac{1}{2}m_{e}v^{2}\]\[3.34\times10^{-19}=\frac{1}{2}(9.109383\times10^{-28})v^{2}\]
\[v=\sqrt{\frac{2(3.34\times10^{-19})}{9.19383\times10^{-28}}}\approx27079.7m/s\]
I am wondering if I got \(\large{m_{e}}\), mass of electron, incorrect...
I think so. 9.10938356 × 10-31 kilograms according to le wiki
Unless... ahhh
Wrong unit I think :P
I thought so too, since my KE is Joules per photon :-(
add units to the velocity and use non-SI units on the energy. The mass you got is in gram, but joule is kg*m^2 / (s^2)
Those units always grab you with your pants down <.< challenger explosion ftw!
LOL
Ok so the formula is still the same? I am confused
\[KE_{e}=\frac{1}{2}m_{e}v^{2}\]Still applicable?
the SI units for energy is joule. But that is the same as: \[ \Large 1~ J=1~\frac{ kg~ m^2 }{ s^2 }\] So in order for the units to cancel to give out a velocity we need to use the mass of the electron in kg. I noticed the number you used is \(10^3\) larger so it must be in gram, while the number I used is in kg. The equation still holds, simply convert the mass of the electron to kilogram instead of gram and try again.
So... KE will now be this?\[3.34\times10^{-19}\frac{\frac{kgm^{2}}{s^{2}}}{photon}\]
Excuse the small print lol
Yeah. pretty much. You can however drop the per photon unit as we are working on 1:1 relationship between electron and photon. The thing is, always remember the stupid fact kilogram is the SI units, so 1 joule will also be in kilogram therefore the mass of the electron had to be written in kg.
So basically I need to convert the unit form of the \(\large{m_{e}}\) and I'm good?
Yup :D
Whew! I'm glad it was a simple error x.x I still have several problems to go over AND a quiz on this material today, so...
Oh, and a lab that's ALSO due before class. EVERYTHING is due before class. Ew.
hehe the error is always in the small things. Also what I kinda expected, since you are in fact really good at chemistry. ;)
I just hope the textbox turn green now....
lol naw, I just applied the chemistry formulae that were given to me. I'm not smart at this at all :-P
So then, this?\[3.34\times10^{-19}=\frac{1}{2}(9.109383\times10^{-28}g\times\frac{10^{-3}kg}{1g})v^{2}\]
I hope I got the conversion unit correct.
Looks good
Yay! :-D
\[v=\sqrt{\frac{2(3.34\times10^{-19})}{9.109383\times10^{-31}}}\]Looks good?
It is very good.
Okay :-D I will put it in Wolfram Alpha now, brb lol
Let me know if it was indeed the correct answer. :D
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=sqrt%5B(2*3.34e-19)%2F(9.109383e-31)%5D \[8.56335\times10^{5}\]
Sounds much like something I got.
YES!! It is correct (/ > 0 <)/
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LOL, Bill Nye.
THANK YOU!! @Frostbite (/ *-*)/ I have more questions though ahah...
I'll make a new post. :-)
@kittiwitti1 no problem at all... I will be working a little on my protein work until I am ones required :)
Okay, it will be coming soon :-P lol
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