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OpenStudy (sleepyjess):

Related rates problem.... pictures below

KjSaif (kjsaif):

where? @sleepyjess

KjSaif (kjsaif):

your offline :/

OpenStudy (sleepyjess):

Question: A container in the form of a right circular cone (vertex down) has radius 4m and height 16m. If water is poured into the container at the constant rage of 16m^3/min, how fast is the water level rising when the water is 8m deep?

OpenStudy (sleepyjess):

What I have so far I know I need V in terms of h, but not sure how to get it to that

OpenStudy (sleepyjess):

I'm just on the app, so it shows me offline

KjSaif (kjsaif):

oh ok :)

OpenStudy (coolor):

find the value of radius when the height is 8m differentiate the volume with respect to time plug in the stuff and get dh/dt <-rate of change of depth

OpenStudy (sleepyjess):

Once I get V in terms of h, I think I'll be fine. It's just getting the r gone and made into a form of h

OpenStudy (coolor):

you can write the radius in terms of height

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

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OpenStudy (sleepyjess):

How do I get the value of the radius if I don't know the volume when h is 8? No, not familiar with integral yet

OpenStudy (sleepyjess):

Agent, can't see drawing on the app...

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

|dw:1478184003781:dw| Use similar triangles to find a relation between r and h.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Use similar triangles to find a relation between r and h.

OpenStudy (sleepyjess):

Would r be 2 when h is 8?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

First you have to find a way to express your volume only in terms of h, using the above.

OpenStudy (sleepyjess):

That's where I'm having trouble

OpenStudy (coolor):

hint:use trigonometry

OpenStudy (sleepyjess):

I have v = 1/3r^2*8, do I need to differentiate that or did I mess up somewhere?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Do not plug in any numbers yet. You have to differentiate before plugging anything in. Look at the pic I attached. Remember similar triangles?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Or use http://i.imgur.com/CL7Kjkh.jpg

OpenStudy (sleepyjess):

Yes, using the similar triangle, I got r = 1/4h. I can put that in before differentiating right?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Yes, you just can't plug in any values till after differentiating.

OpenStudy (sleepyjess):

Okay, I plugged the 1/4h in and simplified it to 1/12pi h^3

OpenStudy (sleepyjess):

Wait, I need to square the 1/4 first

OpenStudy (sleepyjess):

I think I messed up somewhere...

KjSaif (kjsaif):

hmmmmm

OpenStudy (sleepyjess):

I got 16/4pi as the answer

OpenStudy (sleepyjess):

Simplified to 4/publix

OpenStudy (sleepyjess):

4/pi lol

KjSaif (kjsaif):

you may be right....But don't take the word from me.........I need someone to approve 100%

KjSaif (kjsaif):

lol publix

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OpenStudy (irishboy123):

looks right..... in summary \(V = \pi r^2 \dfrac{h}{3}\) \(h = 4r \implies V = \dfrac{\pi h^3}{48} \) \(\dot V = \dfrac{V}{dh} \dot h\) \( = \dfrac{\pi h^2}{16} \dot h\) \(\implies \dot h = \dfrac{16 \dot V }{\pi h^2}\) \(= \dfrac{16 \cdot 16 }{\pi ~ 8 \cdot 8} = \dfrac{4}{\pi}\)

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Don't forget units... you too @IrishBoy123

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

what are they?!?! 0.o

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

lol m/min

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