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OpenStudy (3mar):

How can I calculate the exponential decay? http://prntscr.com/d3mndp

OpenStudy (3mar):

Thanks in advance @mathmate .

OpenStudy (danjs):

So you need to put together the function for population in terms of time P(t). I would call the time t, years since 1992, since that is the first data point and will correspond to t=0...

OpenStudy (danjs):

So they give you two points on the function curve, (t , P) (t , P) = (0 , 28) (t , P) = (7 , 30) right? Good on that stuff?

OpenStudy (3mar):

We have the form \[\huge P(t)=Ae^{kt}\] where t is \(years\) or \(years~difference\)??

OpenStudy (danjs):

Yes. That is a general form for an exponential curve. time t we can call years after 1992. and P(t) is population in millions.

OpenStudy (danjs):

You see how those two points are from the given info? (t , P) = (0 , 28) (t , P) = (7 , 30)

OpenStudy (danjs):

right

OpenStudy (3mar):

According to that, we are going to find out the two constants \(A\) and \(k\) by plugging the two points in our equation.. I would get \(A=28~and~k=9.856×10^{−3}\) So the final form would be \[\huge P(t)=28e^{(9.856*10^{-3})t}\]

OpenStudy (3mar):

But what I am not satisfied with is "I would call the time t, years since 1992, since that is the first data point and will correspond to t=0..." Why that? and when we substitute with t=1992 as it is?

OpenStudy (danjs):

you can if you want, it is messier. The graph is just shifted to the right to 1992. and the constants A and k will be different. 28=A*e^(1992*k) 30=A*e^(1999*k)

OpenStudy (3mar):

If I did it as I think (sub with 1992), would I reach the same result if I want the population at 2008?

OpenStudy (danjs):

What is your equation using those points instead (1992,28) and (1999,30) ?? that is not easy to solve i dont think

OpenStudy (3mar):

I think like that because of the fact: "at the start (t=0), there was any population P(t)=0, not there was 28 million!!!!" That confuses me!

OpenStudy (danjs):

You can use, if you want to be able to use the year number for t instead. \[\huge P(t)=28*e^{.009856*(t-1992)}\]

OpenStudy (wolf1728):

You can solve for the rate by the 3rd formula in the attached graphic: rate = 10^[log(end amt/bgn amt)/time] -1 rate = 10^[log(30/28)/time]-1 rate = 10^[log(1.0714285714)/7]-1 rate = 10^(0.0299632234/7) -1 rate = (10^0.0042804605) -1 rate = 1.0099048561 -1 rate = 0.0099048561 Now look at the second formula 2008 Population = 28,000,000 * (1 + 0.0099048561) ^ 16 2008 Population = 32,782,751 (and this checks out wuth the calculator here: http://www.1728.org/expgrwth.htm

OpenStudy (wolf1728):

Oh and 3mar, in this problem you are calculating exponential growth and not exponential decay.

OpenStudy (iwanttogotostanford):

@wolf1728 @3mar do any of you know spanish?

OpenStudy (3mar):

@wolf1728 where did you get this formulas?? I want the basic to build on it! By the wat I am satisfied of what @DanJS has said and explained and it makes sense - and thanks to him of course - but I need to know when I sub. with x=1992 not just x=7 or even x=16. And @DanJS, I have solved for A and k if I plugged in these points (1992,28) and (1999,30) and I got: \[\huge A=6.0621×10^{-85}\] \[\huge k=0.099021\] So it would be at this form \[\huge P(t)=6.0621×10^{-85}e^{0.099021}x\] But what made me sad is the result I have gotten when I put x=2008 was 136.53, which is not like what we got from the first formula \(32.783~ million\)

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