help a teen out
y-intercept is just the when value given x=0, so 400 is your answer
not sure about the seocnd part of A
I guess it tells you cathy starts out with 400$?
hold on im reading it
Cathy starts out with $400. What happens to her holdings (of money) as time goes on?
Could you finish the following sentence, based upon the info in the table? Cathy started out with $400. The amount of money she had by the end of each month steadily ____________ .
decreased
If you were to plot the info in the table, you could then get a rough graph by connecting the ponts you've plotted. Would this graph be that of a straight line, a parabola or some other curve? Yes, this is a decresing function.
striaght line @mathmale
How can you be sure? Every time you connect two successive points, you create a straight line segment. The overall graph is a straight line only if all of the line segments have the same slope. Connecting these points with a straight line or curve is good enough in this case to permit you to classify what kind of function you have.
so what are you trying to say @mathmale
The second half of Part A of this question asks you to explain what you can conclude about the info in the table if the y-intercept is (0,400). One way of answering would be as follows: "The values in this table represent the graph of a linear function with y-intercept (0,400) and slope equal to negative ... what value? ...
It would take just a minute to graph all of the points given in the table. That might be all you need to do to determine whether or not the data in the table represents a straight line.
Yup its a straight line @mathmale
Great. As before, I'd then conclude that the data in the table represent the graph of a straight line with y-intercept (0,400) and slope of negative something. You should find this slope.
what do yoiu mean?
how can i find the slope?
sorry apparently im very incompetent atm
Every line in the table represents a particular point. I'd really suggest you graph all of these points. You can find the slope of the line connecting any two points using the formula\[m=\frac{ y _{2}-y _{1} }{ x _{2}-x _{1} }\]
i did graph all of them
for example, find the slope of the line connecting (1, 2) and (2, 4).
can i just use the number (0,400) and 1,320
(1,320)
\[m=\frac{ 4-2 }{ 2-1 }\]
i know how to find it... i just asking if those two points are valid to be used
What would your 1,320 represent? Can you follow the example I gave you, above, of how to find the slope of a line segment connecting 2 points?
2 is the slope
Focusing only on the 1st two lines of the table, I get \[m=\frac{ 400-320 }{ 1-0 }=80\]
that gives us an answer of 80 now what?
The slope is "the increase in y divided by the increase in x." As before, you answer Part A of this question by writing something like this: "The data in the given table represent a straight line with y-intercept of (0,40) and slope of -80. We seem to agree that the graph is uniformly decreasing; tht's why the slope is -80, not 80.
so i write down that for part A correct?
just making sure because i cannot afford an F right now
You're not on track to get an F; don't worry. Yes, that's a satsifactory answer to Part A of this question.
hold on while i wriet it down like 1.5 minutes or less
@mathmale how did we get a slope of negative 80....? the numbers show positive 80
Start by taking the info in the top 2 lines of the given table. These points are (0,400) and (1, 320). The slope of the line joining these two points is\[m=\frac{ 320-400 }{ 1-0 }=-80\]
My earlier result was wrong in that I called it 80, whereas it's -80.
oh i should've realized that omg
Part B: Important: "average value of a function on an interval" has precisely the same value as "slope" and is calculated in the same way.
WAIT!
you gave me the slope not y-intercept
for part A
hold on let me look thorugh
OH im so sorry i see you did tell me
The data in the given table represent a straight line with y-intercept of (0,40) and slope of -80. isnt the (0,40) so post to be (0,400)
In Part B: Imagine that you plot the points (1,320) and (3, 160). Find the slope of the line connecting these 2 points. Your result willALSO be the "average value of the function on the interval 1 to 3.
Yes, I apologize. "the data in the given table represent a linear function (straight line graph) with y-intercept (0,400) and slope -80."
totally fine i caught it thats what counts ! :) sometimes its good when someone makes a mistake it makes the person asking the question think a bit
Please try now to find the slope of the line seqment connecting the points (1,320) and (3, 160).
You must know the slope formula by heart and know when and how to apply it.\[m=\frac{ y _{2}-y _{1} }{ x _{2}-x _{1}^{} }\]
-80
Hint: Your y values are 160 and 320 and your x values are 3 and 1. Yes, the average value is -80. This represents what? Think.
slope
and y-intercept is (1,320) right?
In Part B you don't need or want "y-intercept." That's in Part A only.
(1,320) and (3,160) are two points. You are to find the average value of the function on the interval [1,3]. In other words, you are to find the slope of the line connecting the 2 points. You've alrady done that correctly; that slope is -80.
The most important concept here is that "average value of a function on a given interval [a,b]" has the same numerical value as the slope of the line connecting the first and second points. Again, these first and second points are (1,320) and (3,160).
for now you might just have to memorize that. Later, as you do more slope problems and more average value problems, you'll realize that the math is precisely the same in both.
okay so what do i have to do now
Read the question again. Ask about anything about this question that is not clear to you.
At least, read Part B again. What does it ask you to do? Have we done that?
What is the average rate of change of the function represented by the table between x = 1 to x = 3 months and what does the average rate represent?
okay so there is a decrease in 2 denominator
decrease in to months *
Yes. That asks you to find the "average rate of change of the function....." We've done that. What does the "ave. r. of c. " represent here? Answer: slope of the line connecting the 2 points (1,320) and (3,160).
are you a real professor because i'd want to attend your class (im not joking)
Leave the "decrease" part out. The important thing here is that the value of the function changes from 320 to 160 as time changes from 1 to 3. slope = (change in function value) / (change in x) = (160-320) / (3-1) = -160/2 = -80
I did work 43 years as a real professor; I'm now retired. Thank you; yours was a great compliment.
no i didnt inted as a copliment i implied it as you're the BEST ! as is Will.H and other but you are best out all!! (this is compliment)
okay i have written that down for part B
im pretty sure thats it right
Practice makes perfect; were there more time I'd encourage you to work with me on other "average value of a function" problems for the additional practice. I do need to get off the 'Net very soon, so ask that we move on to Part C.
In this problem, x measures time, in months; we start with month 0, progress through months 1 aand 2 to month 3 and then stop. There is no data for months 4, 5, 6, .... . What do you think the domain of this function is?
okay lets go on part C , and yes lets have some practice ... but after i ask 1 more question after this
Let's focus upon what you think is most important. I'd be very happy to work with you again in the future, but really need to get off the 'Net as soon as possible. What do you know about "domain" of a function?
(4,80) (5,0) (6,-80)
alright i got you
I don't recognize that as the domain of the given problem (altho I do see what you are doing). To answer the 'domain' question, you obviously have to understand what "domain" means. Wouldn't it be silly if I asked you to find y from the table (not thru calculation) if x=-1? That would mean "1 month before this situation began."
Anotehr way to put it: for which x values is this function defined in the table (not by formula)?
Focus on the given table, focus on the given data, only.
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my god
i see the flaw i have made
wait im sorry i dont
According to the table, this function is defined ONLY for which x values?
(1,-80)
But you've given me what looks like a point (x,y). No. Look at the table again. Which x values are given? Make a list of them.
Let's put "domain" this way: "the set of input values for which the function is defined."
0 1 2 3 4
0 1 2 3 not 4
That's right. the function is not defined for x=1 1/2, is it?
Is there a y value for x=1 1/2?
no i dont think so
Correct; x = 1 1/2 is not part of the domain of this function.
You have listed the four x values for which the function is defined. By doing this, you have automatically written out the DOMAIN of this function. All you have to do is to indicate that this is a set: use curly brackets: {0, 1, 2, 3}. That's the domain of this function. Again
"domain" is the set of input values for which the given function is defined.
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