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OpenStudy (abbles):

Check my answer - related rates problem

OpenStudy (abbles):

The base of a right triangle is increasing at a rate of 4cm/sec while the height is increasing at the rate of 3 cm/sec. When the base is 5cm and the height is 12cm, find the rate of the perimeter.

OpenStudy (abbles):

I set up the equation: \[P = b + h + \sqrt{b^2 + h^2}\] Then I took the derivative: \[\frac{ dP }{ dt } = \frac{ db }{ dt } + \frac{ dh }{ dt } + \frac{ 1 }{ 2 }(b^2+h^2)^\frac{ -1 }{ 2 }*2b*\frac{ db }{ dt }*2h*\frac{ dh }{ dt }\]

OpenStudy (abbles):

Then I plugged in: \[\frac{ dh }{ dt }=3, \frac{ db }{ dt }=4, b = 5, h = 12\]

OpenStudy (abbles):

I got 8 11/13 as my answer... I'm not sure if it's right...

OpenStudy (abbles):

I just noticed the height is supposed to be decreasing. I plugged in the numbers again using -3 as the rate dh/dt and ended up with 58 3/5 as my answer. That seems a little high.

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Suggestion: always include units of measurement when you do a math or physics problem such as this one.

OpenStudy (mathmale):

You want to know the rate at which the perimeter of the triangle is increasing. Letting P=perimeter, you want\[\frac{ dP }{ dt }.\]

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Your\[P = b + h + \sqrt{b^2 + h^2}\]

OpenStudy (mathmale):

looks fine to me. I'm now going to find the derivative of this expression with respect to time, t, and compare my result with yours.

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Incorrect:\[\frac{ dP }{ dt } = \frac{ db }{ dt } + \frac{ dh }{ dt } + \frac{ 1 }{ 2 }(b^2+h^2)^\frac{ -1 }{ 2 }*2b*\frac{ db }{ dt }*2h*\frac{ dh }{ dt }\]

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Correct:

OpenStudy (mathmale):

\[\frac{ dP }{ dt } = \frac{ db }{ dt } + \frac{ dh }{ dt } + \frac{ 1 }{ 2 }(b^2+h^2)^\frac{ -1 }{ 2 }*[2b*\frac{ db }{ dt }+2h*\frac{ dh }{ dt }]\]

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Think about this and see whether you agree or disagree.

OpenStudy (abbles):

Thanks for replying! How is it any different if there are brackets around the second part? Shouldn't it not matter since it's all multiplication?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Abbles, it is NOT all multiplication. Look how I replaced one of your ' * ' with a " + "

OpenStudy (abbles):

Ah, I see! I'm getting -3/13 when I plug in, does that sound right? Thanks for the help!

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