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OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

Calculus help please

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

The original problem is dy/dx=x^2(1-y) and I have to find the particular solution. I checked my answer and work with the answer key and I had the last step the same: \[\ln \left| 1-y \right|=-\frac{ x^3 }{ 3 }-c\] But then the answer key jumped ahead to the answer and I didn't get the same thing.. So could someone help me solve this for y only?

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

Ohh nvm i figured out what i did :')

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

i made e^(-c)=a instead of -a

OpenStudy (sunnnystrong):

Okay so: \[\frac{ dy }{ dx }=x^2(1-y)\] Rearrange --> \[\frac{ dy }{ (1-y) }=x^2dx\] Integrate \[\ln(1-y)=\frac{ x^3 }{ 3 }+C\] Solve for y --> \[1-y=e^{1/3x^3+C}\] \[y=-e^{1/3x^3+C}+1\]

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

Thank you sooo much, I appreciate it!!! :D

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Hmm why would it be -a? Exponential can't give you a negative value.

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

idk but it worked?

OpenStudy (sunnnystrong):

@zepdrix can you help?

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

I will show what i did

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

\[e ^{\ln \left| 1-y \right|}=e ^{-\frac{ x^3 }{ 3 }-c}\]

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

\[1-y=-ae ^{\frac{ -x^3 }{ 3 }}\]

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

\[y=1+ae ^{\frac{ -x^3 }{ 3 }}\]

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

solve for a using the initial condition (0,2) and a=1

OpenStudy (sunnnystrong):

Oh okay XD well you didn't post that part --> than its different

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

\[y=1+e ^{\frac{ -x^3 }{ 3 }}\]

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

Sorry I didn't even think about that D:

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Ya I was forgetting about the absolute value :))\[\large\rm |1-y|=Ae ^{\frac{ -x^3 }{ 3 }}\]So ya, that definitely gives the potential for a negative A value,\[\large\rm 1-y=\pm Ae ^{\frac{ -x^3 }{ 3 }}\]Oh and you have initial data? cool :)

OpenStudy (sunnnystrong):

@zepdrix lol XD

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

so does the negative a come from the absolute value or because it was e^-c ?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\(\large\rm e^{-c}>0\) for all values of c. So it has to come from the absolute value or more accurately from the context of the problem. Was it a physics problem of some sort, where a negative would only make sense?

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

Oh okay thx for clearing tht up. And no it was just an old AP question that asked to find the particular solution of dy/dx=x^2(1-y) in the form of y=f(x) with the initial condition f(0)=2

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Well if the A is still in the equation, then you've only found the `general solution` up to this point. Did the book show the general solution with a negative A? You would plug in your initial data in order to replace A with some particular value, giving you your particular solution.

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

No it didn't even show the steps after it had the ln|1-y| part. That's why I was confused

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

But when i made a negative i got the right answer

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Oh weird :3

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

Yup lol xD I'll ask my teacher monday about tht part

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

Thanks for the help!

zepdrix (zepdrix):

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