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OpenStudy (volpina):

A paper clip is dropped from the top of a 144-ft tower, with an initial velocity of 16 ft/sec. Its position function is s(t) = -16t^2 + 144. What is its velocity in ft/sec when it hits the ground? (2 points) -96 -64 -32 0 I think it's C

OpenStudy (3mar):

Why C? Can you share your works/steps, please?

OpenStudy (dustin_whitelock):

http://openstudy.com/updates/584d6affe4b071fda882243d

OpenStudy (volpina):

cuz when you derivative the equation you get -32

OpenStudy (3mar):

What about this "144-ft tower" and this "initial velocity of 16 ft/sec"?

OpenStudy (volpina):

... no idea ._.

OpenStudy (3mar):

Let's proceed!!!

OpenStudy (volpina):

kay x3

OpenStudy (3mar):

Of course you have studied these three laws of motion!

OpenStudy (volpina):

yes

OpenStudy (3mar):

That is awesome! so as I am used to do ,,, We need to use what we have to get what we need - A paper clip is dropped from the top of a 144-ft tower, so it is dropped from the top (falls with the gravitational acceleration \(\Large g(9.81m/s^2)\) + from the top of a 144-ft tower (falls from a vertical distance equal to the height of the tower) - "with an initial velocity of 16 ft/sec" i.e it started to move not from stand still, but it has an initial speed of \(\Large v_i=16 ft/sec\) - "....when it hits the ground" means two things * it has traveled all the tower height * it has no velocity at that point, i.e its final speed is zero \(\Large v_f=0\)

OpenStudy (3mar):

According to these data, in addition to the required "What is its velocity in ft/sec when it hits the ground", we are going to use which equation of these I sent you?

OpenStudy (welshfella):

I must admit I'm puzzled by this question. @emar Why do you say that the final velocity is 0. I'm not saying you are wrong.

OpenStudy (welshfella):

I have to go right now. I#ll be back later.

OpenStudy (volpina):

uh we use the 3rd one?

OpenStudy (3mar):

Which is?

OpenStudy (volpina):

\[V_1^2=v_o^2+2as\]

OpenStudy (3mar):

You hit the right target! Can you plug in the given data into?

OpenStudy (volpina):

uuhhhh i'm not sure about this but \[V_1^2=v_0^2+2(144)(16)\]

OpenStudy (3mar):

and what about \(v_o\) ?

OpenStudy (volpina):

uummm, idk :\

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

close - v_0 is your initial velocity, and your acceleration isn't 16... it's the SECOND derivative of the position function s(t) = -16t^2 + 144

OpenStudy (3mar):

Nice note, @inkyvoyd so what would you say about that approach!?

OpenStudy (mrnood):

final velocity is not 0 it asks for velocity 'when it hits ground' - but this means in the instant before it hits the ground.

OpenStudy (3mar):

This is what I have corrected in the picture!

OpenStudy (mrnood):

When it hits the ground its position is 144 ft so use the first equation to work out t then do the derivitive to get the velocit function and put the value obatained for t into that derivitive to get v

OpenStudy (mrnood):

Soz - actually - from the equation - its position is 0 when it hits the ground

OpenStudy (3mar):

"When it hits the ground its position is 144 ft" I don't think so....because its position is zero at hitting the ground...look at the axes and coordinates!

OpenStudy (3mar):

"Soz"???????

OpenStudy (mrnood):

From "The Urban Dictionary" :-) "soz." Nonsensical internet slang term for "sorry", used by illiterate morons who for some reason substitute a “z” for “rry”,

OpenStudy (3mar):

and for the question itself....did you get my pic?

OpenStudy (mrnood):

yes - but the equation given is s(t) = -16t^2 + 144 so v(t) = -32t v(3) = -96 fps You have used the 'standard' equation rather than that given (I agree that yours is the normal answer - but it is not as given - I think th equestion is incorrect given that the initial vleocity is not 0)

OpenStudy (mrnood):

the question IS incorrect as v(0) = 0 but it tell us th at V0 =-16

OpenStudy (3mar):

you are very precise and have a nice overall view of the case! I thank you in person as you have illustrated some points that were not clear for me Thanks a lot.. I though so that the problem is not completely stable, as how does the initial velocity have a value in the mean time the final velocity should not exceed 96!!!! That made me confused! so thanks again...

OpenStudy (3mar):

@volpina should be told that this problem is not quite having a correct data, although we did our best to analyze it logically..

OpenStudy (mrnood):

I think (s)he left the forum...

OpenStudy (3mar):

Never mind...but I am glad that I have found someone is confused like me ;))

OpenStudy (welshfella):

Yeah the question is confusing at first sight. That's why I was puzzled by it.

OpenStudy (3mar):

Yes, @welshfella you were right! But when I involved, I found that it needs to treat the problem when dropping according to the position equation S(t), and it actually conflict with the given data (like initial speed)

OpenStudy (welshfella):

exactly

OpenStudy (welshfella):

I knew there was something wrong but I couldn't quite see what it was.

OpenStudy (3mar):

thanks for @MrNood

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