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kaylak:

help

kaylak:

@Vocaloid

kaylak:

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kaylak:

@Vocaloid

Vocaloid:

check #1 again energy cannot be created or destroyed would be the first law not the second

Vocaloid:

note: the net entropy of the universe must increase so what must be true about the organisms' entropy?

kaylak:

d?

Vocaloid:

good #2+3 look good to me

kaylak:

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Vocaloid:

good

kaylak:

yay

kaylak:

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Vocaloid:

actually, that's not true, remember that carrying capacity is a theoretical number set by humans, there's nothing stopping nature from temporary exceeding capacity temporarily

Vocaloid:

hint: carrying capacity can change

kaylak:

so c

Vocaloid:

good, c

kaylak:

6 is because of 10% of oxygen decreasig as layerrs go up

Vocaloid:

hm, I think you have the right idea but I don't think it's oxygen that decreases by 10%, it's available energy that is only 10% of the previous trophich level

Vocaloid:

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kaylak:

so from 90% it decreases 10% of energy from what is consumes or producers get from sun

Vocaloid:

yeah, you have the right idea

Vocaloid:

I think we typically treat the bottom level as 100% though

kaylak:

ok and i need an example animal like producer is a plant

Vocaloid:

pick a specific ecosystem, like a forest, and start with an organism like a tree producing seeds/nuts think about what animals eat nuts and think about what sort of animals eat those animals

kaylak:

ok so forest

kaylak:

so squirrel is primary consumer

Vocaloid:

good, keep going

kaylak:

a bear eats a squirrel?

Vocaloid:

that's a good example, but since bears are tertiary consumers (at the top) it might be best to pick another one for secondary consumer

Vocaloid:

ex. snakes eat squirrels so snakes are secondary consumers what animals eat snakes?

kaylak:

wolf

Vocaloid:

good so wolf (tertiary) --> snake (secondary) --> squirrel (primary) --> tree (nuts, producer)

kaylak:

this good

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Vocaloid:

your calculations are incorrect

Vocaloid:

treat the tree as 100% squirrel gets 10% of the tree snakes get 10% of the squirrel's energy (10% of 10%) wolf gets 10% of snake's energy (10% of 10% of 10%)

kaylak:

so 100 90 9 .09 ?

Vocaloid:

10% of 100% is not 90

kaylak:

10 1 .01

Vocaloid:

good

kaylak:

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Vocaloid:

I'm not 100% sure but I would guess near carrying capacity

Vocaloid:

harvesting too early would halt growth and waiting until carrying capacity is reached would be detrimental to the population (overcrowding)

kaylak:

point 10 maybe

Vocaloid:

what do you mean?

kaylak:

you hvae to identify a point and justify

Vocaloid:

right, and I said pick a time near the carrying capacity

Vocaloid:

t = 10 is not near the carrying capacity

kaylak:

13

Vocaloid:

good, t = 13 seems to have the greatest slope

Vocaloid:

[still not 100% sure on this one though]

kaylak:

so how should i explain this

Vocaloid:

at t = 13 the growth rate is the largest so it would be beneficial to keep the population around that size

kaylak:

why not higher or lower just trying to completely explain my teacher is picky

Vocaloid:

come to think of it the slope is actually highest at t = 10 not 13 whoops

Vocaloid:

anyway, since we are asking for maximum production rate, we want the point where the slope of the graph is the highest

kaylak:

i was right lol

Vocaloid:

when t < 10 or t > 10 the slope starts to decrease which is why I would pick 10

kaylak:

that's all lol

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