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zarkam21:

Help please

zarkam21:

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Vocaloid:

going from standard to vertex form is the most difficult so let's start with that y = x^2 - 2x - 3 first we add 3 to both sides to isolate the x^2 and x terms y + 3 = x^2 - 2x now, we need to add/subtract some number (c) to make the right side a perfect square

Vocaloid:

if a is the coefficient on the x^2 term (1) and b is the coefficient on the x term (-2) we can use the formula c = (-b/2a)^2 to find that value of c

Vocaloid:

b = -2 a = 1 c = (-b/2a)^2 = ?

zarkam21:

4

Vocaloid:

check your calculations again ^^ the denominator should be 2a not a

zarkam21:

-2/2

zarkam21:

-1

zarkam21:

1?

Vocaloid:

good ^^ so we add 1 to each side to get y + 3 + 1 = x^2 - 2x + 1 factor the right hand side

zarkam21:

would it be y=(x-1)^2-4

Vocaloid:

good, but judging by their format they want you to write it as y + k = (x-h)^2 so it would be y + 4 = (x-1)^2

zarkam21:

and this would be vertex form for the first one right?

Vocaloid:

yes

Vocaloid:

to go from standard to intercept, simply factor y = x^2 - 2x - 3

zarkam21:

x-3,,, x+1?

Vocaloid:

good so y = (x-3)(x+1) = intercept form and that's it for row 1

Vocaloid:

for row 2, start with vertex form and convert to standard by expanding y - 5 = -2(x+1)^2 using foil

zarkam21:

would it be \[y=-2x^2-4x+3\]

Vocaloid:

good now to go from that to vertex form, simply factor it

Vocaloid:

hm it looks like it doesn't factor evenly let me check my calculations again

zarkam21:

Yes that's what i concluded as well

Vocaloid:

we could use the quadratic formula

zarkam21:

OKay

cheatingchild:

Here's a tip, use socratic. lmao. It's an app, i don't think they have it for android but they do have it for IPhones. You just scan the equation and it shows you how to do it along with giving you the answer in case you need to check. It works for science and history too.

zarkam21:

I actually like knowing how to solve it by myself :(

cheatingchild:

Ah, well good luck. :)

Vocaloid:

|dw:1512698913051:dw| ngl I kinda forgot what to do from here to turn it into an eqn

zarkam21:

(x + 3)(2x − 1) = 0

zarkam21:

@AngeI

Vocaloid:

I don't think that's quite right ^^

zarkam21:

OH okay :/

Vocaloid:

this is what wolfram alpha gives me but bleurgh

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Vocaloid:

we can go back to it i guess

zarkam21:

Yeah that's what I got but i don't think that isright i got the same on mathway

Vocaloid:

anyhoo, for row 3, to go from vertex to standard you just expand (x+2)(x-3) using foil

zarkam21:

\[y=(x-\frac{ 1 }{ 2 })^2-\frac{ 25 }{ 4 }\]

Vocaloid:

oh uh are you still working on that row 2 equation?

zarkam21:

no this is the vertex form for the third row

Vocaloid:

oh, well it's easier to go from intercept to standard first ^_^ so just expand (x+2)(x-3)

zarkam21:

I'm not getting it quite right

Vocaloid:

foil, first outer inner last (x+2)(x-3) = x^2 - 3x + 2x - 6 = x^2 -x - 6 *** sorry, typo

Vocaloid:

then to go from standard (x^2 -x - 6) to vertex we just need to use the method we did at the beginning (completing the square) y = x^2 - x - 6 y + 6 = x^2 - x using the same method we did earlier, find c = (b/2a)^2

wo1f0mon:

@Vocaloid dont we have latex witch would make this easier to read?

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