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zarkam21:

Blaine steps onto a ski slope with an angle of 25°. There is a coefficient of kinetic friction of 0.15 between him and the ground. He has a mass of 65 kg. a. Draw the free-body diagram showing the forces acting on Blaine. b. Write the expressions for net force in the x- and y-directions. Be sure to tilt your axis along the incline. c. Calculate the net force and acceleration in the x- and y- directions.

zarkam21:

@Vocaloid

Vocaloid:

I"m gonna assume he's going down the slope |dw:1517279660539:dw|

Vocaloid:

|dw:1517279701922:dw|

Vocaloid:

by "tilt the axis along the incline" we are going to define our coordinate system that puts Fn along the y-axis and mg at an angle

zarkam21:

|dw:1517279782370:dw|

Vocaloid:

|dw:1517279777146:dw|

zarkam21:

okay so is this the complete drawing for A

Vocaloid:

yes

zarkam21:

i would assume it is going down as well

Vocaloid:

now is the difficult part, re-solving mg into it's horizontal/vertical components

Vocaloid:

|dw:1517279866599:dw|

Vocaloid:

|dw:1517279941287:dw|

Vocaloid:

|dw:1517280084345:dw|

Vocaloid:

so just looking at the gravity in the y direction gives us |dw:1517280107591:dw|

Vocaloid:

making the horizontal component sin(35)mg

Vocaloid:

|dw:1517280198891:dw|

zarkam21:

okay so from what you describes it all boils down to solving for the horizontal component of sin(35)mg

Vocaloid:

yeah, the tricky part is getting that 35 by using the properties of a line (all angles add up to 180 for a straight line, right angles are 90, etc)

zarkam21:

using the angle that is given of course

zarkam21:

right, so i would solve horizontal component sin(35)(65)(9.8)

zarkam21:

okay so for b its just Fy = Fn - mgcos(35) Fx = Fn - mgsin(35)

zarkam21:

no answers just expressions?

Vocaloid:

oh right, since she's sitting still the net force in both directions is 0 so Fy and Fx are 0 but yeah they just want expressions not any values

Vocaloid:

and of course I forget the friction force ugh

zarkam21:

0 = Fn - mgcos(35) 0 = Fn - mgsin(35)

Vocaloid:

sorry the y-direction is right but the x direction needs to be 0 = mgsin(35) - Ff since there's no normal force in the x direction

Vocaloid:

actually they're probably not equal to 0 ugh just leave it as Fx and Fy

Vocaloid:

Fy = Fn - mgcos(35) Fx = mgsin(35) - Ff that should do it

zarkam21:

okay so for c

Vocaloid:

i'm confusing myself give me a minute

zarkam21:

Sure take your time

Vocaloid:

ok, since the net force in the y-direction is 0 (the tilted axis was confusing me but he doesn't move up or down the y-axis) so normal force = mgcos(35) = ?

zarkam21:

(65)(9.8)cos(35)

Vocaloid:

good, then multiply that out and stick a N unit on it

zarkam21:

521.8

zarkam21:

N

Vocaloid:

good, that's the normal force which will be used in both the Fx and Fy calculations Fy = Fn - mgcos(35) = ? (plug in normal force for Fn)

zarkam21:

Fy = 521.8 - (65)(9.8)cos(35) = ?

zarkam21:

0.00015

Vocaloid:

ugh I"m an idiot we already said that Fy is equal to 0 so yeah Fy = 521.8 - (65)(9.8)cos(35) = 0 (the extra 0.0015 is just because of rounding, in theory it should be 0)

Vocaloid:

anyway, Fx = mgsin(35) - Ff where Ff = friction force = coefficient of friction * normal force

zarkam21:

21.8 - (65)(9.8)cos(35) = 0

zarkam21:

so am i solving for anything here

Vocaloid:

we already determined it was equal to 0, so we just state that net force in the y direction is equal to 0 N

Vocaloid:

next step is to calculate Fx which is just Fx = mgsin(35) - Ff

zarkam21:

Fx = mgsin(35) - Ff

Vocaloid:

where Ff is the friction force which is coefficient of fric * normal force

zarkam21:

521.8*0.15=78.27N

Vocaloid:

goood, so mgsin(35) - Ff = ?

zarkam21:

65(9.8)sin(35)-78.27=287.1N

Vocaloid:

good so far we have Fy = 0 Fx = 287.1N down the slope (defining down the slope as the + x direction) it also asks for acceleration in the y and x directions, and according to newton's 2nd, F = ma so acceleration is just F/m, just divide both forces by m

zarkam21:

521.8/65

zarkam21:

8.03N

Vocaloid:

good, however we are solving for acceleration not force so m/s/s are units

Vocaloid:

acceleration in the y direction is just 0 m/s/s since 0/65 = 0

zarkam21:

is it okay if i just show you what i wrote for C

Vocaloid:

sure

zarkam21:

Calculate the net force and acceleration in the x- and y- directions. Normal force = mgcos(35) (65)(9.8)cos(35)=521.8N Net force in the y direction is equal to 0 N 521.8*0.15=78.27N 65(9.8)sin(35)-78.27=287.1N Acceleration is just F/m 521.8/65=8.03m/s/s

Vocaloid:

good just let me be a bit more specific w/ certain steps\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @zarkam21 Calculate the net force and acceleration in the x- and y- directions. Normal force = mgcos(35) (65)(9.8)cos(35)=521.8N Net force in the y direction is equal to 0 N 521.8*0.15=78.27N ---> specify that you are solving for friction here 65(9.8)sin(35)-78.27=287.1N ---> specify that this is the net force in the x direction Acceleration is just F/m 521.8/65=8.03m/s/s ---> specify that this is the x direction only also include the fact that acceleration in y direction is 0 \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\)

zarkam21:

GO it !! Thank you so much !

Vocaloid:

oml i'm actually going to punch a wall the angle should be 25 not 35 so just repeat the calculations with 25 ;;

Vocaloid:

Normal force = mgcos(25) (65)(9.8)cos(25)=577.32 N Net force in the y direction is equal to 0 N 521.8*0.15=86.598 ---> specify that you are solving for friction here 65(9.8)sin(25)-86.598=182.61N ---> specify that this is the net force in the x direction Acceleration is just F/m 182.61N/65=2.809 m/s/s ---> specify that this is the x direction only also include the fact that acceleration in y direction is 0 ^ there that should be it

Vocaloid:

for b) just replace the angles Fy = Fn - mgcos(25) Fx = mgsin(25) - Ff everything else is the same

Vocaloid:

|dw:1517282644443:dw| and for a) it's just like this

zarkam21:

oh you beat me to it! I was just doing it as well

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