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lolokrat:

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Ultrilliam:

@Elsa213 If your available, could you help them with this?

Shadow:

Hello @lolokrat Are you there?

lolokrat:

yes

Shadow:

Have you read the excerpt?

lolokrat:

yes

Shadow:

What do you think the answer is?

lolokrat:

B?

Shadow:

Why do you think it is B?

lolokrat:

it's long lasting, so it'll take more than one income to provide

lolokrat:

or c, it's long lasting, so it'll affect retirement down the road.

Shadow:

Final answer?

lolokrat:

uhhh, c.

Shadow:

Correct. B) brings up the problem of two providers being essential for middle class families to get by. C) brings up pay inequality creating an issue of difficulty retiring. These are long lasting effects of pay discrimination in play.

lolokrat:

so, c?

Shadow:

The question is asking for a valid argument that supports the statement of pay discrimination having long lasting effects. Not being able to retire because you need to work is a long lasting effect.

lolokrat:

ok, cool. thanks!

lolokrat:

i have another question - its a chart regarding same topic, same story. can you help?

lolokrat:

excerpt from "Why Equal Pay Is Worth Fighting For" by Senator Elizabeth Warren, April 17, 2014 I honestly can't believe that we're still arguing over equal pay in 2014. When I started teaching elementary school after college, the public school district didn't hide the fact that it had two pay scales: one for men and one for women. Women have made incredible strides since then. But 40 years later, we're still debating equal pay for equal work. Women today still earn only 77 cents for every dollar a man earns, and they're taking a hit in nearly every occupation. Bloomberg analyzed Census data and found that median earnings for women were lower than those for men in 264 of 265 major occupation categories. In 99.6 percent of occupations, men get paid more than women. That's not an accident; that's discrimination. The effects of this discrimination are real, and they are long lasting. Today, more young women go to college than men, but unequal pay makes it harder for them to pay back student loans. Pay inequality also means a tougher retirement for women. . . . For middle-class families today, it usually takes two incomes to get by, and many families depend as much on Mom's salary as they do on Dad's, if not more. Women are the main breadwinners, or joint breadwinners, in two-thirds of the families across the country, and pay discrimination makes it that much harder for these families to stay afloat. Women are ready to fight back against pay discrimination, but it's not easy. Today, a woman can get fired for asking the guy across the hall how much money he makes. Here in the Senate, Sen. Barbara Mikulski (D-Md.) introduced the Paycheck Fairness Act to give women the tools to combat wage discrimination. It would help ensure that salary differences have something to do with the actual job that they are doing, and not just because they are women. This is a common-sense proposal—no discrimination, no retaliation when women ask how much the guys are getting paid, and basic data that tell us how much men and women are getting paid for key jobs. Basic protection, basic information—that's essentially all this bill does. Employers can still pay different workers different salaries based on factors like skill, performance, expertise, seniority, and so forth—the Paycheck Fairness Act doesn't touch any of that. Even while women still earn less than men in 99.6 percent of occupations, Senate Republicans won't even let the Senate vote on a bill to help make the workplace a little fairer for women. They just filibustered the Paycheck Fairness Act for a third time, telling women that we don't need paycheck fairness. This should be a no-brainer. America's women are tired of hearing that pay inequality isn't real. We're tired of hearing that it is somehow our fault, and we're ready to fight back. We are not going to give up on passing the Paycheck Fairness Act to level the playing field for hardworking women in the workplace.

Shadow:

Basically this is asking which points help her argument. Do you understand the argument that Warren is trying to make?

lolokrat:

That women should be paid higher

lolokrat:

or, equal to men's salaries

Shadow:

Warren's Argument: Women should be paid more than what they are now, to the point that they are equal with men. ~Not higher than men's salaries. Then it would be discrimination against men.

Shadow:

This is based off of same job = same pay.

lolokrat:

yes, they want equal pay

Shadow:

Example: I am a guy. Say you're a girl. We both work at Taco Bell. If I make $17 an hour and you make $15 an hour and we both are cooks at the same level, started on the same day, that is discrimination that Warren wants to stop. [Disclaimer: I love Taco Bell, and am not saying that they discriminate.

lolokrat:

LOL. got it.

lolokrat:

i don't really understand how to differentiate valid reasoning vs invalid reasoning.

Shadow:

Valid Reasoning: Helps the argument Invalid Reasoning: Rebuttals or contradicts the argument Example: Statement - Donald Trump does not like immigrants Evidence #1 ~ One of his primary goals is to build a wall to keep out illegal immigrants Evidence #2 ~ His wife, Melania, is an immigrant herself Which one helps, and which one does not?

lolokrat:

#1 helps, #2 doesnt

Shadow:

That simple.

Shadow:

Apply the same thought process to the screenshot.

Shadow:

Does it help Warren's claims, or contradict them?

lolokrat:

did i get any wrong?

Shadow:

How would you say the last one doesn't help Warren's argument?

lolokrat:

they're just saying they're going to fight back - it doesn't really help the argument by saying it isn't equal

Shadow:

1. If someone is willing to fight for something, it evokes the thought of "maybe they do deserve it?" Who would deserve an award? Someone who showed up ill prepared and put little effort in, or someone who practiced day and night working hard to be ready. 2. If someone is willing to fight for something, it alludes to there being an actual problem. This helps to solidify that a problem in fact, exists, as there are women who wish to fight for solving/fixing it.

lolokrat:

ah, so it is valid.

Shadow:

Is it? Do you see any flaws in my reasoning?

lolokrat:

nope, i see the reasoning behind it. if people are going to fight for something, most likely it is important.

Shadow:

Honestly, I believe it could go either way. My personal belief is that the pay gap (77 cents on the dollar, female to male) is a myth. This is because when you factor in things like hours worked, a man's willingness to sacrifice in order to seek higher pay (asking for raises, risk, moving to cities that pay more for the same job, more ambition, etc). You can even run into psychology, with women being on average, more agreeable, and men being more disagreeable. tl;dr since we don't have all night, women are more complacent with what they get, men...not so much. If males get low balled on there pay, they are more likely to say something. They are also more likely to ask for raises, since they are less complacent. So it doesn't matter if a bunch of women are ready to fight for pay discrimination (doesn't mean that there is an issue), because there isn't actually a problem when you take in other factors. I mean, it's illegal to pay women less than a man for the same job (The Equal Pay Act of 1963 (EPA) - EEOC).

lolokrat:

good points.

Shadow:

This one is unfortunate, as you can interpret it too differently. It's your choice.

lolokrat:

yeah, i think i'll go with valid. it really isn't up for personal beliefs, it's whether the computer says its right or wrong LOL

Shadow:

Eh, my personal belief runs off of statistics. But it's your call.

lolokrat:

ya

lolokrat:

got time for 2 more?

Shadow:

Sure

lolokrat:

thanks.

lolokrat:

actually, i think it's c. b can't be it because evidence doesn't always support.

Shadow:

Aha, you have learned from my Trump example, young grasshopper :)

lolokrat:

LOL

lolokrat:

next?

Shadow:

yeah

lolokrat:

lolokrat:

D?

Shadow:

Yeah, B and C aren't contenders. I would say it's between A and D. The clear distinction between men and women's earnings could be intentional discrimination that is happening. If they pay a man more because he worked more hours, or lives in a state/region that has a better economy, that is intentional.

lolokrat:

i think it would be d, the evidence is sufficient.

Shadow:

Yeah, I would go with D. This assignment reeks of bias.

Shadow:

Online school right?

lolokrat:

LOL. i agree, and yes.

lolokrat:

the assignments we get make no sense at all sometimes and the answer they give us is clearly wrong but it's right to them LOL.

Shadow:

Honestly, they should have just had you read the article, hear the argument, then agree or disagree in an essay, providing reasons why. With this method you do more work, sure, but there is more intellectual freedom and creativity. This assignment is like telling someone there is only one exit to a store, even though there are three others. And if you dare use another exit, rip grade.

lolokrat:

so true.

Shadow:

Being able to write essays and form an argument will help you more in the long run then just being a part of the echo chamber.

Shadow:

Unless you plan on going to Hollywood ;)

lolokrat:

yep - i cant deal with this online school thing. first year i did it, and i am going back to public next year LOL

Shadow:

Ah, I hope you are not too far into your high school years.

lolokrat:

only a freshy

Shadow:

Good. Freshman year you can make some mistakes. Albeit you want to limit them, but sure you can make some. Starting sophomore year, it's best to learn from those mistakes and never make them again. Because starting junior year, you start applying to colleges.

lolokrat:

sorry, last one. D?

Shadow:

Read them aloud

Shadow:

Or in your head

lolokrat:

B? thought parallel structure was most of the time had an "ing" word in there

Shadow:

Do you know what parallel means?

lolokrat:

similar things?

Shadow:

Same. Parallel lines have the same slope. But sure, similar to an extent. So what must parallel structure mean?

lolokrat:

same pattern of words?

Shadow:

mhm

lolokrat:

A?

Shadow:

A cat, a balloon, and a duck walk into a bar.

Shadow:

That's not a joke, you should get the idea :)

lolokrat:

LOL. got it.

Ultrilliam:

I had to re-read that 7 times before I realized LOL

lolokrat:

LOL

lolokrat:

alright thanks so much for your help! cool site (: much prefer this over peersanswers.

Shadow:

No problem, glad I could help.

Ultrilliam:

Glad to hear it! :) Hope to see you here again! =P

lolokrat:

ahhh you're not useless. goodnight guys thanks for your help again :)

Shadow:

Night :)

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