Help please
@Vocaloid
it would be right by the sun right
for a) yes, for b) it would be the opposite (farthest away from the sun) still figuring out c
(this part has always confused me about orbits, but the potential energy is highest where the satellite is closest to the central body, then decreases as it moves farther away, then increases again, so your graph should be a parabola/U-shape I believe)
I'm not quite sure what I'm looking at here
OH the two dots
i labeled them just wanted to make sure the direction is right
like where i placed them
if you're labelling the closest/farthest points away on the orbit it should be at the two ends like this|dw:1519094659186:dw|
[your system is the Earth + sun but the principle is the same]
so where the two arrows are that's where?
|dw:1519094687560:dw|
where the moon is not the arrows
yeah something like that
OKay now for b
I mean c
for b it's the farthest point from the central body (so the point on the far right)
make sure you're labelling them as "highest KE" and "lowest acceleration" since that's what they're asking for a + b
c should be an upward facing parabola
sort of like that but a little broader, plus gpe is never negative or 0 so it shouldn't touch the x-axis
|dw:1519095152568:dw|
[just make it a bit more symmetrical than that]
better but it could be more symmetrical
eh, could be a bit more even on both sides but let's move on
Okay sure
actually @sillybilly123 would the potential energy during an orbit just be a parabola or is it more complex than that
we can move on in the meantime
okay sure that is it for this question right
yeah pretty much
given \(T + U = \text{const.}\), ie we can call it a closed frictionless system, the energy equation should be: \(\dfrac{1}{2} m v^2 - \dfrac{\mu m}{r} = \text{const.} \) where r is distance between star (at ellipse focus) and planet, \(\mu = GM\) and v is planet speed relative to star \(T \propto \frac{1}{r}\), most T means smallest r, ie when they are closest. ( "closest" isn't necessarily right at the perigee but is pretty close from what i can calculate) the gravitational force is always inward toward star, and \(F = m a = - \nabla U = \dfrac{\mu m}{r^2}\) ie \(a \propto \frac{1}{r}\), so that too should be greatest for small r, ie when closest. hence the slingshot effect graphing: the energy has to be negative, and one could guess it looks something like this just by smoothing out between 3 points: |dw:1519124596519:dw| behind that question is a load of great original math from superstars like Kepler, Newton...
so "lowest" acceleration when furthest away....must learn to read and graphs look pretty similar except for axis which is that slightly nebulous -ve energy point :(
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