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GlockParrot69:

Can someone please check my work?

GlockParrot69:

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GlockParrot69:

@Sam

GlockParrot69:

i don't think 5b is correct. Can you please check my work?

Sam:

Only one spring right? Hold on

GlockParrot69:

yeah there is only one spring and we assume the carts are moving to the right when colliding with one another. So right is positive x-direction

Sam:

We can say that the spring is at maximum compression when the speeds of both blocks are equal

Sam:

I am not sure if you've done your work correctly, I haven't checked

GlockParrot69:

can you please check my work? :)

GlockParrot69:

the velocity of both carts are given. The momentum of cart A is bigger than cart B. so i think the net velocity of both carts should be right (positive). One thing to note is that the moment both carts collide the spring is compressed and as cart A moves cart B to the right because again due to bigger momentum, the spring is still compressed as they move to the right/east.

Sam:

Yes, what 5b means when the 1.2kg cart "after" the collision? Is it when the carts touch each other or when the second block changes its direction?

GlockParrot69:

i think they want to know the velocity of cart B after the collision.

Sam:

Yes that can mean anything

GlockParrot69:

or maybe they want to know the velocity of cart B right after the kinetic energy transfers from cart A to cart B.

GlockParrot69:

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Sam:

So you're stating after the collision cart B is still moving west before it stops and changes direction

GlockParrot69:

i'm saying that cart A is heading east and cart B is heading west for a head-on collision. Once they collide, cart A and Cart B move to the right/east together but...since the momentum of cart A is greater than cart B. After the collision...cart A will stop cart B and change cart b's direction from west to east minus the energy wasted in the collision.

Sam:

Right, I found PE= 3.09J when the spring is at its maximum collision, close to yours.

Sam:

Give me a min

GlockParrot69:

yes sir :)

Sam:

Almost done

random231:

i dont understand what you fdid on page 3 :\

Sam:

I gotta type everything again, ugh

Sam:

Wait

GlockParrot69:

so after the collision, the conservation of energy and conservation of momentum stays the same. so i took vf1 and energy equation plugged it into the second equation and solved for vfB

GlockParrot69:

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GlockParrot69:

so from equation 1, i isolated the "v1i" and solve for that and then i took that value and plugged it into the second equation and solved for "v2f"

Sam:

Hmm there's something wrong with mathjax

GlockParrot69:

yeah i can't copy previous drawing either... :/

random231:

yea^

Ultrilliam:

*i'm confused because everything is working fine for me*

GlockParrot69:

ok ...thank gawd!! :)

Sam:

OK so, the total energy before the collision is given by \(\sum E= E_1 + E_2 + E_S\) but since the spring isn’t compressed, \(\sum E= E_1 + E_2 + \cancel{E_S}\). \[\sum E_{TOT_1}= E_1 + E_2 + E_S \\ \\ \sum E_{TOT_1}= \frac{1}{2}m_1v_{1i}^2+ \frac{1}{2}m_2v_{2i}^2 \\ \\ \sum E_{TOT_1}= 34.2J \] Now, when the spring is compressed there is potential energy. \[\sum E_{TOT_2}= \frac{1}{2}m_1v_{1}^2+ \frac{1}{2}m_2v_{2}^2 + PE \\ \\ \sum E_{TOT_2}= 31.11 +PE \] Because energy is conserved, both the total energies before and after the spring is compressed are equal. So \[\sum E_{TOT_1}= E_1 = \sum E_{TOT_2} \] So \(34.2=31.11+PE, PE=3.09J\) The total energy after collision is \[ \sum E_{TOT_3}= E_{1f}+E_{2f} + \cancel{E_Sf} \\ \\ =\frac{1}{2}m_1 v_{1f}^2+ \frac{1}{2} m_2 v_{2f}^2\] We know that \(\sum E_{TOT_1}= \sum E_{TOT_2} = \sum E_{TOT_3}\). So we'll have simultaneous equations with both unknowns \[34.2= \frac{1}{2}(1.6) v_{1f}^2+ \frac{1}{2}(1.2)v_{2f}^2 ...(1) \\ \\ 31.11= \frac{1}{2}(1.6)v_{1f}^2+ \frac{1}{2}(1.2)v_{2f}^2 ...(2)\]

GlockParrot69:

so from here i jst have to solve for v_2^2f? on both equations and thats it?

Sam:

Yeah

Sam:

I got 5.816m/s for v_2f and 4.6485m/s for v_1f

GlockParrot69:

btw can i use those two equations that i was using in the pictures?

Sam:

You can, you got pretty close to what I've got for total energy during collision

GlockParrot69:

ok Thanks papi. I was struggling on this problem for days.,.... thanks you are a hero for me <3 god bless!! :)

Sam:

Hahah I've spent an hour on this as well, god with that server hiccup I had to type again xD, good luck anyways

GlockParrot69:

God bless india and its people. you are a lifesaver!! :)

GlockParrot69:

every effort was appreciated :)

Sam:

I'm not from india though, but anyways yw

GlockParrot69:

and thanks random i love you both to pieces. <3

GlockParrot69:

oh my bad ^~^

random231:

sorry i jus lost my internet connection for a bit

GlockParrot69:

it's ok hunny!! :) thanks

random231:

haha thanks :)

random231:

and @Sam thats some nice work m8

Sam:

Lots of love :)

Sam:

Yeah tis annoying question anyway xD I hate doing momentum problems

GlockParrot69:

XD

random231:

lawl, these were some of my fav questions back in HS

random231:

i hated questions related to Optics :\

GlockParrot69:

gawd XD really? XD

random231:

ye

random231:

Thsi is how i solve it btw

random231:

random231:

but sam's method looks more efficient

Sam:

Optics isn't my favourite either, I love Newton's law problems, Conservation of energy, fluid mechanics, E&M and Quantum mechanics

Sam:

You've got different answers than mine @random231

Sam:

9.793 and 1.94

GlockParrot69:

lol....i love newton's law problems too... XD but i think the conservation of energy and momentum problems are starting to grow me on so mehh... im getting better

GlockParrot69:

what?!?!?! so who's right? XD

Sam:

Conservation of energy problems are easy, \(E_i =E_f\) always

random231:

Damn i might have made some calculation error

random231:

i dont have a calculator w me :\

Sam:

Mine, I did the safest and the most secure way possible

random231:

^

GlockParrot69:

ok i guess i'll try both ways and see if your answers match.... thanks guys..

GlockParrot69:

just sold a chemistry exam to someone online XD

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