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kaylak:

help @vocaloid

kaylak:

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kaylak:

I'm almost done with this lesson I promise

Vocaloid:

well you would copy down the formula from before, cos(theta) = u dot v/|u| |v| then explain that you would need to calculate the dot product for the numerator, the magnitudes for the denominator, solve for theta, etc.

Vocaloid:

well I guess the first step would be reading the graph and determining what the vectors for u and v would be in vector notation, then followed by those other steps

kaylak:

could we do the graph like work it out?

Vocaloid:

since both the vectors are at the origin, you just need to find the coordinates of the end points and then convert those to a vector to get your vector notation for example, the endpoint of v is (-2,-1) so the vector is <-2,-1> then repeat the same logic for vector u

kaylak:

-3,-4

Vocaloid:

good, that's vector u, so vector v = <-2,-1> and u = <-3,-4> then you would calculate cos(theta) = u dot v/|u| |v| based on this to find theta

Vocaloid:

I'm not sure if they want the actual numbers and calculations or if they just want the steps but that's how you'd do it

Vocaloid:

still there? is there anything that's still unclear?

kaylak:

yes and hold on

kaylak:

so would I do the multiplication and squared thing?

kaylak:

@Vocaloid

Vocaloid:

I'm not sure what you mean, but if you're talking about magnitude and dot product calculations then yes

kaylak:

ok so i did all that and got 4^2+6^2 =52 and then root and got 7.21

kaylak:

@Vocaloid

Vocaloid:

try to keep the magnitude calculations and the dot product calculations separate first, do the numerator calculation by 1. multiplying the x-coordinates 2. multiplying the y-coordinates 3. adding the answers from steps 1 and 2

kaylak:

got that

Vocaloid:

then, you would calculate the magnitude of u, magnitude of v and then calculate the denominator based on that

kaylak:

so 4^2 and 6^2

kaylak:

wouldn't I add those and root them?

Vocaloid:

nope, you would calculate u and v separately because the formula calls for the magnitudes of u and v separately

Vocaloid:

start with vector u, find the magnitude of <-2,-1> by taking r = sqrt(x^2 + y^2) and then move onto vector v

kaylak:

-5 for u

kaylak:

-2.24 for v

Vocaloid:

keep in mind magnitudes have to be positive. sqrt((-2)^2 + (-1)^2)) = ? sqrt((-3)^2 + (-4)^2)) = ?

kaylak:

5 25

Vocaloid:

don't forget the sqrts, so | u | = sqrt(5) and | v | = 5 then plug these into the denominator of the formula cos(theta) = u dot v/|u| |v| once you plug in the dot product of u and v then you can solve for theta

kaylak:

so i got 5 and 2.24

kaylak:

so how would I set it up exactly?

Vocaloid:

\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Vocaloid don't forget the sqrts, *** so | u | = sqrt(5) and | v | = 5 *** then plug these into the denominator of the formula cos(theta) = u dot v/|u| |v| once you plug in the dot product of u and v then you can solve for theta \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\)

kaylak:

I got the square root part 25=5 5=2.24

Vocaloid:

we have just determined that |u| = sqrt(5) and |v| = 5 the formula cos(theta) = u dot v/|u| |v| gives us the angle for u and v simply plug in the magnitudes u and v, plug in the dot product, and calculate theta.

kaylak:

what was the dot product again I have steps down but it's kinda all over the place

Vocaloid:

\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Vocaloid try to keep the magnitude calculations and the dot product calculations separate first, do the numerator calculation by 1. multiplying the x-coordinates 2. multiplying the y-coordinates 3. adding the answers from steps 1 and 2 \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\)

Vocaloid:

^ that's your dot product

kaylak:

so do i do the ^2 in dot product trying to not confuse myself

kaylak:

the dot product being 52 square root ?

Vocaloid:

the dot product does not involve squaring simply identify the x-coordinates of u and v, the y-coordinates of u and v, and calculate the dot product

kaylak:

ok and i just add them no squaring or root or anything?

Vocaloid:

no squaring or rooting, no

kaylak:

so then just 10

Vocaloid:

yeah good, then plug everything in and solve for theta

Vocaloid:

anyway I really need to take a shower and go to sleep cos(theta) = 10/(5sqrt(5)) theta = arccos(10/5sqrt(5)) then just chuck this into a calculator to get theta

kaylak:

you don't have time for 2 more questions?

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