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Shadow:

@Angle

Shadow:

\[\sin \theta + \cos \theta = 1\] How would you solve this

Shadow:

Or maybe Sarah can use her brain for me

bm717:

@umm ;) I think she can.

Shadow:

No you

dude:

No u

Shadow:

Ms. Calculus

bm717:

Uh TGP IS CALLING ME GTG BYEEEE

Shadow:

\[0 \le \theta \le 2 \pi\]

Nnesha:

solve for what ?

Shadow:

theta

Shadow:

Inky want to show me how to do this .-.

nuts:

you want just the answer or work

Nnesha:

use the identity \[\sin^2 \theta +\cos^2 \theta =1 \]

Shadow:

I want to understand, so the work would be good

nuts:

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nuts:

wait that's a janky way to solve it

nuts:

follow nnesha and then skip a few steps and use my answer

Nnesha:

\[\large\rm \cos^2 \theta = \sin^2 \theta -1 , \rightarrow cos \theta = \sqrt{sin^2 \theta -1} \] ^substitute that \[\large\rm \sin \theta +\cos \theta =1\] \[\sin \theta + \sqrt {\sin^2 \theta -1}=1\]

Nnesha:

\[\ \sqrt {\sin^2 \theta -1}=1-sin\theta \] square both sides and then solve for sin theta.

nuts:

ahh yeah that's the proper way to do it

nuts:

granted every time you do that square root and square operation you have to justify it based on signs

Shadow:

\[\frac{ \pi }{ 2 }\] ?

nuts:

ya

Nnesha:

there is another solution. work??

nuts:

oh yeah 0 i forgot

Shadow:

\[\frac{ 3\pi }{ 2 }\]

nuts:

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nuts:

jk i'm a lazy liar and you should never trust me

nuts:

2pi, not 3pi/2

Shadow:

Okay I guess I should write out my steps and you guys tell me where I screwed up, lol

Nnesha:

The best way is to see the work in order to make the correction. otherwise ill be just guessing

Shadow:

\[\sin \theta + \cos \theta = 1\] \[\sin \theta + \sqrt \sin^2 \theta - 1 = 1\] Square it all \[\sin ^2 \theta + \sin^2 \theta - 1 = 1\] \[2 \sin^2 \theta = 2\] \[\sin \theta = \pm 1\] Referred to unit circle, and that's how I got \[\frac{ \pi }{ 2 } , \frac{ 3 \pi }{ 2 }\]

Shadow:

Where I got +-1 from \[2 \sin^2 \theta = 2 \] \[\sin^2 \theta = 1\] \[\sin^2 \theta - 1 = 0\] \[(\sin \theta + 1)( \sin \theta - 1)\] \[\sin \theta = -1, \sin \theta = 1\]

Shadow:

I'm kind of just going off copied notes for this since I was there for the lecture. Sorry lol. @Nnesha

Shadow:

wasnt'*

Nnesha:

2nd step is wrong..

Nnesha:

\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Nnesha \[\large\rm \cos^2 \theta = \sin^2 \theta -1 , \rightarrow cos \theta = \sqrt{sin^2 \theta -1} \] ^substitute that \[\large\rm \sin \theta +\cos \theta =1\] \[\sin \theta + \sqrt {\sin^2 \theta -1}=1\] \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) we know that \[\cos^2 \theta + \sin^2 \theta =1 \] solve for cos^2theta we will get \[\cos^2 \theta =1- \sin^2 \theta \] to get rid of the square root from left side take square to the both side of the equation (including the *-1*) \[\sqrt {\cos^2 \theta} =\sqrt{\sin^2 \theta -1}\] \[\cos \theta = \sqrt{\sin^2 \theta -1}\]

Shadow:

Yeah I inputted that in for cos

Nnesha:

\[\sin \theta + \sqrt \sin^2 \theta - 1 = 1\] sqrt of sin^2theta -1 not just the sin^2theta \[\sqrt{\sin^2 \theta-1} \cancel{=} \sin^2\theta\]

Shadow:

I know, but the sqrt doesn't extend all the way over for some reason.

Nnesha:

ohh one second

Shadow:

I treated it as: \[\sqrt (\sin^2 \theta - 1)\]

Nnesha:

sorry that's right i was thinking about (sin^2theta -1)^2 *faceplm*

Nnesha:

\[\sqrt {\sin^2\theta -1} = 1- \sin \theta \] \[(\sqrt {\sin^2 \theta -1})^2 = (1-\sin \theta)^2\] \[\sin^2 \theta -1= \] (1-sintheta)^2 = ?

Hero:

So the correct way to do this is to do the following steps: Given: \(\sin\theta + \cos\theta = 1\) Square Both Sides: \(\left(\sin\theta + \cos\theta\right)^2=1^2\) Expand the above to get: \(\sin^2\theta + \cos^2\theta + 2\sin\theta\cos\theta = 1\) Remember that \(\sin^2\theta + \cos^2\theta = 1\) so: \(1+ 2\cos\theta\sin\theta = 1\) Subtract 1 from both sides: \(2\sin\theta\cos\theta = 0\) Divide both sides by 2: \(\sin\theta\cos\theta = 0\) Then use the product property (if ab = 0, then a = 0 or b = 0) \(\sin\theta = 0\) or \(\cos\theta = 0\)

Hero:

Now you should be able to easily find your theta.

Bob:

ive heard of alpha, beta, omega, but no theta

Shadow:

In your third step, where does \[2 \sin \theta \cos \theta\] come from?

Hero:

It comes from expanding the binomial. Remember algebra \((x + y)^2 = x^2 + 2xy + y^2\)

Shadow:

yeah, facepalm

Shadow:

wow

Shadow:

Thank you Hero, I get it now. Those steps were pretty easy to follow.

Hero:

Don't forget to read that book I was telling you about.

Shadow:

Haha, I'll have time this summer to pour through books. Already have the great books you recommended on my reading list, I'll add that other one as well.

Hero:

Ah, I see. Good luck.

Nnesha:

That was an interesting question..\[\rm \sin^2 \theta +\cos ^2 \theta=1 \rightarrow cos \theta =\color{orange}{ \sqrt{1-sin^2 \theta}}\]\[\sin \theta + \color{orange}{\sqrt{1-\sin^2 \theta}}=1\]\[\rm \sqrt{1-\sin^2\theta}=1-\sin \theta\]\[\rm (\sqrt{1-\sin^2\theta})^2=(1-\sin \theta)^2\]\[\ \rm 1-\sin^2\theta = \sin^2\theta -2sin \theta +1\]\[2\sin \theta (\sin \theta -1)=0 \]\[\sin \theta = 0 ~,~ \sin \theta =1\] This messy approach is *algebraically* correct...however it gives an extra solution which does not satisfy the original equation, an *extraneous solution*..

Hero:

Except @Nnesha, your approach will not output possible values for theta that will satisfy the \(\cos(\theta)\) requirement. With my approach, we have \(\theta = \sin^{-1}(0) = 0\) \(\theta = \cos^{-1}(0) = \dfrac{\pi}{2}\) And thus \(\sin(0) + \cos(0) = 1\) or \(\sin\left(\dfrac{\pi}{2}\right) + \cos\left(\dfrac{\pi}{2}\right) = 1 \) So my approach finds two values of \(\theta\) that satisfy the equation.

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