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EndersWorld:

Doing meth with Hero

gabbykae:

meth ruins lives...Dont Do Drugs Kids

EndersWorld:

The expression \[20x^2-36xy+16y^2\] is equivalent to \[(5x+8y)(4x+8y)\] \[(5x-8y)(4x+2y)\] \[(2x+y)(10x-16y)\] \[4(x-y)(5x-4y)\] \[(20x+8y)(x-2y)\]

Hero:

By meth, he means math. He's implying that after attempting to understand math, his brain state is the same as if he tried meth, which I assume he has not. Meth is just a spin-off of math which is supposedly mental abuse to humans, but it's not really true. But judging by the number of people here, you all must really be curious about meth. Please don't experiment with drugs. If you came here looking for drugs, sorry to disappoint you.

EndersWorld:

Thanks @hero 😂 😂

Hero:

@EndersWorld so how far did you get with your factorization attempt? Post the steps according to the method I showed you.

EndersWorld:

No where.

EndersWorld:

I tried, lemme go back LOL

Hero:

You can at least attempt the first step.

Hero:

Yes, go back and read the tutorials I posted on this.

EndersWorld:

And that’s to find the two products that equal B when added and AC when multiplied?

Hero:

Two numbers*

Hero:

But do you remember the process for actually finding those two numbers?

EndersWorld:

Sorry, yea. So B is -36 and AC is 320

Hero:

Okay, so what would you do first?

EndersWorld:

Kinda sorta... sorry, I’m going through a lot in my personal life..

EndersWorld:

Find the products of 36

Hero:

Actually, you start with 320 and find two numbered factors for it starting with (1)(320)

EndersWorld:

I need the products of 320?

Hero:

Yes, correct, you're finding two-numbered factors for 320 one step at a time. (1)(320) (2)(160) Are the first two factorizations.

Hero:

You keep listing paired factors until you get to one where their sum is 36.

EndersWorld:

(4)(80)

Hero:

Great. Keep going

EndersWorld:

(5)(64)

EndersWorld:

(8)(40)

EndersWorld:

Bam^

Hero:

What's 40 - 8?

EndersWorld:

Crap... I’m misread LOL

EndersWorld:

(20)(16)

Hero:

Correct

Hero:

Now what do we do? If you're stuck on what to do next, refer to the tutorials.

EndersWorld:

-20+-16=-36 -20*-26=320

Hero:

Excellent! So, now what?

EndersWorld:

Weee... uh.... plug it in?

Hero:

@EndersWorld do you think you could type the expression you're referring to here with the "plugged-in" values? Go ahead and give it a shot. You're doing very well atm.

EndersWorld:

That’s where I am stuck.

Hero:

Can you at least retype the original expression here?

EndersWorld:

\[20x^2-36xy+16y^2\] I want to say \[20x^2-(-20+-16)+16y^2\]

Hero:

Except if you did that, you'd be making the same mistake I made yesterday. It's best to just replace the 36 with 20 + 16 don't forget the xy outside the parentheses though.

EndersWorld:

So leave off the negatives?

Hero:

Correct. Go ahead and re-post your expression knowing this.

EndersWorld:

\[20x^2(20+16)xy+16y^2\]

Hero:

More like \(20x^2 - (20 + 16)xy + 16y^2\) We're not changing the expression, we're just simply replacing 36 with 20 + 16

Hero:

But now, the next step will be to use the distributive property to distribute the negative and the xy to both the 20 and the 16.

EndersWorld:

\[20x^2-20xy-16xy+16y^2\]

Hero:

Excelente! Now what?

EndersWorld:

stares at you blankly with a dead look in my eyes

Hero:

I see. So the next step is to "Factor By Grouping". Factor the first 2 terms. Then factor the last two terms. Go ahead and give it a try.

EndersWorld:

Wasn’t there a formula to that?

Hero:

Ah, I see, you may not yet know how to factor. What you do is look for what is common to the first two terms. Then extract them out. The formula to use for this is the distributive property in reverse.

EndersWorld:

4x for \[20x^2-20xy\]

EndersWorld:

Or \[20x\]... I’m lost

Hero:

20x is correct. 20 is clearly common to both. Don't worry, I suspect you know the correct answer. We will get there in the end. So knowing that, go ahead and post the correct factorization for both sets so far.

Hero:

We're doing this ONE step at a time.

EndersWorld:

And I suck at it..

EndersWorld:

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Hero:

That's good except that when you factor out those terms. What remains in the parentheses should MATCH. In order for them to match, you must remember to factor out -1 from the second factorization so actually, you should have \(20x(x - y) - 16y(x - y)\)

Hero:

But you did great with that attempt. That was far better than what I predicted you would do. So now, remember that what remains is the expression in parentheses that is common to both factorizations So we now have to factor that out as well. Any ideas?

EndersWorld:

I’m looking for a factor IN the parentheses?

Hero:

What's in the parentheses IS the factor that needs to be factored out.

Hero:

Notice that what needs to be factored out is a binomial and what remains will also be a binomial.

EndersWorld:

I feel dumb... ಠ_ಠ like for real..

EndersWorld:

Would I take 4 out of the \[20x\] and \[-16y\]

Hero:

So basically, when you factor out the \((x - y)\) which is common to both factorizations, you end up with \((x - y)(20x - 16y)\) but we're not done yet.

Hero:

And as you noticed, the reason we are not done is because now, 4 is common to 20 and 16 so we have to factor it out as well.

Hero:

Any idea what the final expression will be now after factoring out the 4?

EndersWorld:

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Hero:

It's more like: \(20x^2 - 36xy - 16y^2\) = \(20x^2 - (20 + 16)xy - 16y^2\) = \(20x^2 - 20xy - 16xy - 16y^2\) = \(20x(x - y) - 16y(x - y)\) = \((x - y)(20x - 16y)\) = \(4(x - y)(5x - 4y)\)

Hero:

The step right before the end is very important to understand. The steps cannot be skipped.

EndersWorld:

I didn’t wrote down every step, sorry XD. My mind is scrambled.

Hero:

Not to worry, every student struggles with this at first. Trust me. For me, though, math was always like puzzles and games.

EndersWorld:

Gonna make me a sandwich, then will you be ready to tackle the next one? Hopefully it will go smoother.

EndersWorld:

The next one is a fraction 0_0

Hero:

Oh boy. I know you'll be ready for it though :D

EndersWorld:

Hold me Hero, I’m scared 😂

Hero:

Not to worry, the world will not be ending tonight.

EndersWorld:

Food 🤤

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Hero:

Ugh, people still eat that? Wow

EndersWorld:

What? Sandwiches?

Hero:

I mean, I can just tell the quality of the bread is very poor amongst other things. Nothing looks organic or anything. I'm mostly vegan anyway.

EndersWorld:

I live in South Carolina, nothing is exactly “good quality” and to be honest, I threw it together so I could eat fast and hopefully do one more problem

EndersWorld:

I have leuttece on it

EndersWorld:

I did have a glass of fat free milk earlier, and some yams.

Hero:

Yeah, you have lettuce on it but lettuce is really low on the nutritional vegetable scale. Spinach is far better to use. Also, Vegan-aise would be a better sandwich spread and Rudi's Sprouted Spelt bread would be ideal. Also, you can use avocado in place of meat and Follow Your Heart for Vegan Cheese. Trust me, it would be the best sandwich ever, especially with a sliced tomato and a bit of Sriracha sauce.

EndersWorld:

Shhhh, you are making me hungry... and I just ate..

Hero:

Also, I realize we could have done what we did as a first step with \(2x^2 - 6x - 8\) with \(20x^2 - 36xy - 16y^2\) as well because 4 is common here.

EndersWorld:

I see.

Hero:

There's more than one way to factor, but usually what you do is look at all three terms and see if there is anything common first. That is the REAL first step.

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